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Take a deep breath, read back through the posts and try to comprehend them properly, rather than listing random clubs and expecting answers.What i have said is a local derby is a game against a club of a similar size in a similar region, where fan bases are next to each other and in many cases overlap. I used an hours drive (excluding London derbies due to traffic chaos there) as a yardstick of what constitutes local geographically. Therefore any reasonably large club whose fan bases overlap in that radius would be considered a local derby. It really isn't that difficult, is it?

I've only seen us lose at home once in almost two seasons. That was Leciester. I missed the Man U, Bristol C and Millwall games. My presence inspires the players. FACT

What did I say about the size of clubs?

Dont be a lemon of course we won't. Newbury and Basingstoke are overlapping towns which contains large sections of fans of both. They are our nearest geographical rival to the north. It might not be a derby filled with hate and history but geographically it's very much a local derby.

Forest and derby. Ipswich and Norwich. Swindon and Oxford. Luton and Watford. Off the top of my head all local derbies where the clubs are in different counties. If you don't think us and Reading is a local game then maybe you need to do a night course in geography.

Exactly Jamie. Im in the office today I'll poll Reading and Liverpool fans opinions and report back on my findings.

That's odd Man u fans and I would assume they would know which games are their derbies and which aren't, refer to it as the North West Derby. http://www.manutdtalk.com/index.php?entries/the-north-west-derby-never-changes.2291/

Apart from being in the same division, competing for the same title, being in the same region and having large fanbases in the same overlapping towns obviously.

Peterborough the same size as Forest?!! PMSL! Sorry, how many Eueopean cups and league titles have they won? Forest get crowds 3 times bigger than Peterboroughs even now when they are doing badly. As for Leicester and Coventry ever heard of Midlanda derbies?

No, a derby is a game against a reasonable sized club within a reasonable distance, an hours drive was the radius I suggested (with the caveat that big London derbies are different due to travelling difficulties) I'd imagine County fans were well up for a game against Forest, much like Boirnemouth were against us. For Forest, Derby is the bigger game because their clubs are similar size. All games within that radius are "local" IMO but due to history, size of clubs etc, some are bigger derbies than others.

Which club would Nottingham Forest consider the bigger game? Notts county or Derby?

It's obviously different for a city like London with so many big clubs and traditional rivalries. I'm talking About clubs like Saints.

See my comments above about size comparisons of clubs.

Youre being silly now sour mush.

So you live near Reading, went to school there, support Saints but it isn't a local game. Okay then.

I've lived in Harrogate and Leeds, in a house full of Leeds fans. All my in laws are Leeds fans from Leeds. They all consider Middlesborough and Hull and Sheffield clubs as derbies. Other Leeds fans I know talk of Yorkshire Derbies against the others.The United match is calls the Roses Derby or something similar. And to prove what utter ****e youre talking Liverpool v Man United was considered the 3rd Most fierce derby in England, one ahead of Saints v Pompey, yet according to you this isn't a derby. LOL

I work in Reading and drive there at least twice a week. It takes me 45 minutes. Case closed. It is.

So what defines a local derby then?

Any game against a reasonable sized club within an hour is a local derby. Yes. It might not be THE BIG local derby, like Saints v Pompey but it's a local game. Using Leeds as an example their BIG LOCAL derbies are against Man United. The one filled with hate and history. But also have or have had local derbies against both Sheffield Clubs, Huddersfield, Bradford even Middlesboro and Hull are considered local derbies by their fans. How close does a club have to be for you to consider it a local derby then?

Forgive him and welcome him back, evidently.

Yeovil isnt under an hour away!!! Its obviously nothing like our games with the skates with the history and hatred but in terms of geography and locations of fan base it is a local derby.

They have London derbies and are 70 odd miles away so no. Reading are a localish team less than an hours drive away. Anything within an hours drive is local IMO.

I think it is. Our fan bases overlap in Basingstoke and Newbury areas. This makes it a local derby. IMO of course.

We also failed to beat them in both regular league games as well. They finished 3rd (i think) we scraped 6th. Your mates might think we were better but the reality is we werent.

Seconded. With the money we spent we should have been pushing for top two. As it was Burnley was banging the "aiming for the top 6" drum all season and we scraped in largely because Preston imploded with 5 games to go. We were gallent losers to an awful Derby team. Not really almost making it IMO.