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No i am all for indians and chinese players, we could sell crispy duck and chicken balti as half time snacks for the gutty ****ers amoungst us and they could help with the cooking before the game.

Stop being so politically correct, everyone hates gingers, even if they are good players. I dont want them on our pitch or any women in our stands. You did get one thing right though, calling me Sir.

He's northern, he doesn't count.

He was Swedish, he doesn't count. We dont want "them" in our club. If i have to go to another game with c**ting people wearing ginger wigs.

30 years ago, great. And he wasn't really ginger, more rusty, Bailey is real ginge, not welcome.

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=22143 I started this completely unsubstanciated rumour off a few weeks ago and was scorned for it, maybe there is some truth in it afterall.

Never mind all that, he's ginger, what top players are ginger? When has a ginger player been any good for Saints? I dont want him at my club.

on this forum. We get mass hysteria and knee jerk OMG, i'm never going to be able to go to a game again, reaction when we cant pay for our tickets monthly, Nicola Cortese is Satan etc. Or the other end of the specturm which is the Cortese is god, he can do no wrong (except if he'd have sacked Pardew) Ryan Dickson is the best left back since Roberto Carlos etc Oh how i long for the days when all people gave a toss about was the team and the football, the days when you'd be hard pushed to name the chairman of any club and the only thing that mattered was 1/ you won 2/ it was entertaining. Pies, queues, burgers, tickets, beer, shirts designs, banner designs etc, who really gives a **** as long as we win/entertain every week?

Where have i said people should follow my lead? I do it that way because i chose too. I hardly missed a home game last season and didn't have a season ticket because i chose not to have one. Whats the drama with that? If people are "geniune fans" then they will still go, but they have to do it game by game if they cant afford to get a season ticket.

If you really are a genuine supporter who cant afford to stump out xxxxx for a season ticket then you will simply not get a season ticket and go game by game, as I will do and have done for the last few seasons. I intended to get a season ticket this season, but due to no installment plan have chosen not too now and will continue to attend on a game by game basis only missing one or two a season as i have done since relegation.

Why? Jaidi showed no signs that last season was his final season. I do think we will see more of Seaborne and Martin this coming season but Jaidi is still a quality player.

I thought you'd be one of the coaches tac-tics, what with your plans to revolutionise grass roots football i'd have though you and Mr Clifford would be best pals and hang out together. :smt120

Friday 04 Jun 2010 10:30 - 11:30 Playing Against 10 Men George Burley ?? WTF!!!!! Was it not George Burnley that consistently use the excuse that it was harder to play against ten men when we consistantly failed to beat ten men?

ON his mission to take Garfoth to the premier league within ten years i meant.

not very well then.

Well if you are sick and tired (which i can spell correctly) of it, then why read a thread called Ugly XI? The clue as to what it is about is in the title, obviously not that tired.

whats he up to these days? Saw his name cup up on championship manager and remember he was going to revolutionise the game and take Gartforth Town to the premier league. How is he getting on with it?

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that'll be enough to put off a lot on here from going.

Always been that way though hasn't it, English managers seem scared of players who are a bit different and dont fit into a specific system, hence why MLT never got a break at that level. How long did it take Bobby Robson, probably the best English manager since Sir Alf, to take the shackles off Gazza? I remember Gazza in his early days coming on in a game and being superb, creative, attacking a breath of fresh air after Ray wilkins and co and Robson slated him for holding onto the ball to much. We seem to try to shoehorn all our players into a rigid 4-4-2 where the team play in straight lines whilst the top nations like Brazil, Spain at the moment, france when they won it, even the Dutch pick a system to suit the best players available.

nail on head, that is the biggest problem, everyone, including the players think that due to the celebrity status and earnings even average players get in England. I think the difficencies of English players are highlighted in the fact that you can count on one hand the amount of English players that have been a success abroad in the last 30 years and that English players seem incapable of playing any other system than 4-4-2.

hard and low into the bottom corners, like MLT used to, or hard and high into the top corners, like Rickie does its going to take some keeper or some save to keep it out.

Yeah might well do that one, going to do a few more away days next season, we'll have to stick a post on their forum before hand to arrange a meet ;o)

So when have they performed? When was the last time you could say, Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard etc had a great tournement and enhanced their reputations? Proved themselves to truely be world class at international level? I cant think of any that have done since the mid ninties when Owen did in 1998 (and he was a young up and coming not a top first team player) and Shearer in 1996. The only exception of Rooney in 2004 and again, lkike Owen you could argue that Rooney wasn't an established "world class player" back then but more of an Owen up and coming type. Agree that these days few international games are a walkover but England consider themselves a top footballing nation and should expect to beat the likes of Denmark etc When was the last time we beat Sweden for example? We consider ourselves a better team than them. The fact is, with a couple of exceptions over the last 40 years or so England have always come up short against the nations we put ourselves on a par with, when it matters in tournements, it cant all be down to crap tactics from a ****e manager.

Cant you read? I said in the tournements. 2002- we looked good against the Danes, 3-0 up in the first half, but really should we not expect to beat the likes of Denmark? We were poor against Sweden, okay against Argentina, poor against Nigeria. So we played well in one game out of five against a team we should expect to beat 9 times out of 10. Then got beaten by a team that we lead 1-0 and played a lot of the game with 10 men. Where where our big players then, when it mattered?