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Okay so let me get this straight im a protest organiser I choose any time or place to protest but I choose a time and place to protest where I know there is chance I might disrupt a traditional service I know the police force will be stretched that day dealing with the said service and protecting the attendees I know in my group there will be some people who are actively looking to cause issues I also am aware of a possible counter protest from another group which may be looking to confront my group am I acting like responsible protest organiser? Is this really worlds apart from deliberate attempt to cause disruption?

Original point was in response to you saying no one wants to disrupt the Remembrance Sunday events, there will be, the organisers will know this and have a responsibility as well. I see it’s now kicking off in Trafalgar square at todays march, still think it’s just “a gut feel”?

It’s more than a gut feeling. There are plenty of talks of a counter protest which is only going to result in things going one way. Just because we’re a democracy doesn’t mean we can be completely blasie in letting people just get on with it knowing full well there is a risk to public safety

Yeah because the one thing this war is short of is publicity. Jesus wept 🤦

You didnt respond to any of the questions, some more for you. why do you think to this particular March there has been a reaction from the so called far right? do you think it’s the organisers responsibility as well as the police to avoid any potential for clashes and violence? of there is a potential risk to safety then absolutely they should be made not to protest, this doesn’t mean protests shouldn’t be allowed but there has to be some responsibility to ensure it can be done safely

Do you think the organisers are completely unaware that there will be those there on “their side” intent on causing an issue? if they answer is no then they are incredibly naive, if the answer of yes then do they think it’s wise to organise a March on the one day of the year that is more than any other is likely to raise tensions. The intention may not be to disrupt Remembrance Day but if they really believe there won’t be those in their ranks that will be wanting to do so they they are not fit to organise a March in the first place. They have every other day of the year to do it, why chose that day?

How many injury time goals is that now this season? Great run we are on, fantastic stuff

Oh come on egg you’re not naive. You know as well as I do that in amongst the peaceful protesters there will be a significant element with another agenda. Likewise the counter protest will contain the same. They could chose any day but they’re choosing a day which is significant for a lot of people in this country I’m amazed the met police are allowing on that day. Probably because if they don’t they’ll be accused of islamaphonia. It’s a recipe for disaster even if the organisers are well intentioned

They could have chosen any other day, that’s why. and if it wanted to provoke a reaction they’ve done just that as looks like they’ll be a counter protest as well

Exactly, it’s an obvious tactic. Now there are rumours of a counter demonstration from what Sog would call the far right. I’m of the view that protests/marches should be allowed but this is simply and attempt to cause mass disruption and of course any counter demonstration from those opposed to it will play right into the hands of the likes of Sog who will be falling over each other to be the first to criticise it.

This is true but it’s been different for me for a while anyway. Since I moved up north it’s either driving or a long train journey, which used to be on my own meeting up with mates who’d been on the beers since 10am and then having to leave early to get the train back. So although I used to absolutely love a day out at football it’s not been the same for me for 10 years already. when I see harrogate it’s in the family stand with my lad and his mates, we might go for one on the way home but I can easily cut that out

And I bet useless Arne boy Martin doesn’t pick him tomorrow either

Ha no mate. just not enjoying it anymore, dont want to ruin days and weekends by being hungover and just trying to cut down doesn’t really work for me. A few people I knows health is suffering due to booze mainly and few people I know have given up recently and are now 6 months to a year in and loving it plus had a bit of a surprise at some blood test results recently, nothing major serious but needs sorting while I can. So all those things combined have made me decided I don’t want it anymore. Not for everyone of course and I won’t bore everyone by it being the first thing I say when I meet them 😉

That’s the thing when I’ve done it for a few months it has suited me, several people I know have given up and every single one that’s stayed off it has said they feel so much better. So here we go!

How are we all doing with this? @The Left Back did you do six months? @Raging Bull did you stay off? tomorrow I am knocking it on the head, I’m back from a week in Cyprus tomorrow and for a number of reasons have decided I don’t need or want it in my life any more coming in a mess, going out in style. cheers everyone for one last time

How the fuck has he pulled that piece he’s smashing? She’s quite tidy he an absolute bellend, the sort of kid that would ride up to you on his bike give a wanker sign a ride off quick ad he could

are you mad? You went out? Looks awful in Southampton severe weather warning of moderate wind don’t go out!

When you’re on holiday and people feed the stray cats that hang around local restaurants so the things constantly hang around tables

Remember our last trip to Millwall? They retained their hide and seek champion title, couldn’t find them anywhere then this inside the ground, what a day

He was right though wasn’t he. He was the boss and if you didn’t like it you’re out. Brian clough was the same,

They are now but that wasn’t always the case and just shows what an incredible manager Ferguson was, if anyone got bigger than the club they were gone. I remember when he was there people said managing them was easy, even Alan Pardew would win the league with them and if they’d just spend £200m to buy new players. How laughably wrong that has proven to be

Is it him or is it the toxic culture at Man U? Every manager who’s been there since fergie has failed miserably. That club is rotten from top to bottom, ever since the last year of fergies reign it’s been a club in decline. It’s actually quite sad to see, I know a lot of people hate them but it’s a great English club a shadow of itself. They should be challenging for every trophy available. They’re not even close

To put it into perspective it was against Man United

If he’d have had to say it a third time then the lad would have left picking up his teeth with a broken arm. This is how we do it in Southampton classy, not bullies but mess with us you’d wish you hadn’t