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I appreciate that A) this could be exciting news B) it's certain,y of interest and C) the following is pedantic, but ... isnt this a transfer thread, and aren't rumours about ownership better elsewhere? Of course ownership impacts transfer funds, but it really isn't the right place for this discussion IMHO

Alexander-Arnold is so scouse I’m not sure he counts as English. Can’t understand a word he says.

Lol beat me to it

I’m guessing right back, English, premier league. Double-barrelled surname too. 😉

Great work as always, thank you for updating

So who was the goal scorer???

Correct, Puckett and Whitlock. Puckett scores a hatful until Christmas and then got injured, virtually ended his career. Whitlock was there for a while I think

Seeing as a) I got most and b) it’s been a while I’ll post the next one. Very simple to be honest. As well as donating our coins down the road, we also sent a few of our players ... which two ex saints were first team players bompey the year they got promoted to the old second division for the first time.

Bus

And Targett / archery and Bale / harvest? You could tenuously have bridge for water? No idea on drinking, penis or cue.

And maybe mills for flour??

I’ve got peach and Dennis I think ...

Well done the club, hoping it will make some other clubs (and indeed other companies that can afford it) sit up, take notice and most importantly take action.

To be fair to the Liverpool fans (i know it's hard) they were very vocally opposed to this decision, pretty much to a man. And we don't know for definite what our own club have done ref the furlough scheme so wouldn't be so quick to crow. I don't think linking pride of supporting your club to the greed of the owners is fair on the fans. We all seem to support an idea of a football club that is very far removed from the modern reality I'm afraid.

Fair point, I think people moaning should be people who have volunteered to help if they can.

I’m really sorry but I think you’ve got this the wrong way round. I, like I imagine most people, was happy leaving football as a separate issue to the wider situation. It was ‘football’ by way of certain clubs using the furlough scheme that brought these two issues crashing together. The players might very well say that’s the fault of their owners for choosing to do that; my point is they can’t exactly have expected public sympathy unless their heads are entrenched in their own arses. Best policy would have been to shut up and work on a positive response. Instead they chose to try and paint themselves as unfortunate victims for their terrible plight through the pfa saying we should thank them for their charitable donation of tax, supplying a completely exaggerated figure in the process. To have expected any response other than “f@ck off you bunch of overpaid, ivory tower dwelling c*nts” would take a gigantic misreading if public opinion, only capable by people who did indeed have their heads firmly entrenched up their own arses. And it really is worth making the point that what most of us are focusing on is the players making a sacrifice to help their fellow (but massively less well-paid) workers at their clubs that they rely on every day of their working lives. I do not expect Deli Ali to fund a trial of a new drug to cure covid 19. Just please take a bit less money so the minimum wage waiter can be kept in work without troubling the government furlough scheme. Or if he thinks ENIC should pick up the tab have that conversation with your employer. Just don’t tell the press how unreasonable ENIC are and how unfair it is on you because I don’t give a sh1t.

No Yes Odd What’s your point? I shouldn’t call out the footballers because there’s other rich, greedy, selfish people in the world?? If I was blaming them for the ills of society it’d maybe make some sense, but the context of this is how initially footballers and owners at clubs furloughing it’s lower paid staff are behaving, widened to the general premier league after the pfa decided to seek public sympathy. In that context I think my post focusing on footballers was reasonable??

I’m sorry but much as I think he talks a lot of sense most of the time, I think even saint Lineker has mis-judged this one. Fundamentally it is the clubs who are making this decision and ultimately I guess they’re responsible, but footballers in the UK have been extremely slow to react. How long ago did Barca and Juve players announce their measures? What’s the reason for the delay in the uk? The implication from what the likes of rose, Rooney and Lineker have said is that they feel it should be the clubs who act. The second the general public see multi millionaires say it’s not for them to sort, it’s for the billionaire owners is the same second most of us think f@ck off. They might actually have a point, but how far up your own 4rse must your head be to not see that an argument between multi millionaires and billionaires is not going to generate any sympathy among the public for the poorer relations, those terribly victimized players. How far removed from reality must you be to think that telling us we should be grateful for the tax they pay, talking as if it was a charitable donation and annualising it to massively exaggerate the amount (otherwise known as lying). Oh yes, now you say it I realise Hancock was wrong, we should lay off the players who we should protect as the people to cheer us up when this is all over by entertaining us ... as they dive, cheat and dissent themselves through 90 minutes work. Make no mistake, the clubs are more at fault and there are some decent people amongst the players. But saying we should lay off the players for being a 90% c*nt because they’re not as bad as the 100% c*nt owners is hardly a ringing endorsement. And if they expect to get sympathy by whining to the press about how unfair this is on them, and getting their representative body to make statements like that while the players struggle to do anything collectively, then they have massively miss read the public mood. Most of the public are concerned with slightly more pressing matters than millionaires and billionaires arguing over what is, quite frankly, small change to them

I’m hoping this is somehow wrong, I guess it’s possible it’s someone who works for an outsourced support part of the operation? (not sure that’d make it much better). But if my club are furloughing employees via the tax payer rather than support through premier league riches I am indeed done.

Do you know what? Spot on. Any PL club should not use funds for transfers, agents or loans until all furlough money is returned. Simple and reasonable. Then they’ll make a real decision on if it’s necessary or whether they can miraculously find other options.

So in the argument as to who should pick up the tab you’d side with the multi-millionaires against the billionaires. I suppose they’re technically not as wealthy. And because neither side is prepared to concede to the other, we’ll leave it to the tax payer. I suppose all the overtime the nurses are doing will help swell the tax receipts, so why not.

Bobby stokes? And no idea but hoping it was the skates

How about we use this as a means of determining the table. Liverpool finish fifth bottom for this, no champions league money for them next year. Alternatively, and on a very vaguely and as yet not thought through properly whim, how about companies that use the furlough get nationalised to an extent when we're all done. Could return clubs to some sort of fan ownership afterwards. Because if ever something has finally proved that the football hierarchy are utterly detached from the fan base its this. This is a national crisis and this is a crisis fund, and it is being exploited by billionaire owners to avoid them or their multi millionaire players covering for their low-paid co-workers, and asking everyone else in the country, including our NHS staff, to pay for it with their taxes. Nice.

And apparently last year they spent almost £44 million on agents fees. Yep, this is a company in need of tax payer assistance at this time of national crisis.