Chewy

Very sorry to hear and wish him the very best of luck. Think we’ve done right by him and as others have said, hope he’s been able to use this time to plan a good career/trade.

Bristol City are also really skint - chairman was complaining about covid impact in the press (too lazy to find & post link). No idea if he’s a sweeper keeper type currently favoured … or if he’s any good. But the whole world knows we want a keeper within 6 months so imagine there’ll be a few rumours created, not all of which will be true.

Our captain isn’t a leader - our midfield looked stronger when he was suspended, with the added benefit that Diallo sometimes goes forward … I’d forgotten what that was like. I’m not anti JWP overall, but on current form he’s weakening the team.

It was a joke 😉

Isn’t he suspended anyway? Sure I read that somewhere

I am happy, just disappointed that Redmond is the worst footballer in the world ever and no one except Ed Rooney can see it.

My glass half full view of those respective line ups is that we’ll get annihilated

Has anyone watched enough to comment if Doyle can be a first team option this season? I know 16/17 year olds are very much the exception but the stats look pretty exceptional so far. Yours hopefully 😉

Saints spent the first 60 mins playing with 9 men until he moved Mo inside, and another 10 with 10 until he replaced Theo. That was entirely on Ralph. Who’s doesn’t understand football?

Just about happy enough with 4 points from those 2 games, but this was not a great Burnley side and we should be winning these games. Both centre backs made errors for the equaliser but it was a top finish; combine that finish with our wastefulness and that’s the difference And yet that’s the problem - the difference should have been greater. Walcott was anonymous, Mo equally until he switched inside, and while Redmond worked hard and had some good touches, he’s not a no 10 and he’s not a striker. Why it takes Ralph 75 mins to change any of this three with a bench full of options (Tella, 2 Armstrongs, Djenepo and Adams) is beyond me. Granted we could do with better quality here, but if the people playing aren’t doing anything, change it. We shaded a match despite only playing with 9 men for half of it! Sorry, but imho with better management we win that game comfortably irrespective of Cornets finish and Redmond and Walcotts misses. On the plus side, Salisu, Diallo, Tino and Broja look better with every game and Stuart has more minutes under his belt. That’s half of an extremely useful football team right there!

I thought Diallo was motm yesterday and should play more. And I still think this is a ridiculous thread. Im glad we might not miss him too much in these three games but it’s 20-30 years since football was about 1-11. He’s captain, the best free kick taker in the league, and a critical part of the squad. Pleased we have 3 good central midfielders

Not a strong Leeds side but we dominated the whole match save for maybe 5 mins after the break. The dominance was created imho in central midfield where Romeu and Diallo in particular were excellent. Very good performances elsewhere, not a foot wrong really across the entire defence except for 1 Salish error … but he was excellent otherwise. Wide players were slightly less good than everyone else but fine; Redmond had a good game and his effort was exceptional. Borja led the line very well, had some great touches and got a first goal. And we even got a pretty impressive few minutes out of Armstrong who we’ve missed. Only criticism would be that the score line didn’t reflect our dominance but that’s a small complaint. Very happy this evening.

Shilton Mills Wright Van Dijk Bridge Williams Schneiderlin Le Tissier Lambert Moran D Wallace subs Niemi, M Svensson, Clyne, Case, R Wallace, Ings, Armstrong Bit messy I think. First saw in 84 but don’t remember a huge amount, saw some of the modern players a lot more. Not picking based on post-saints success so not including Shearer, Bale or Mane for that reason. Will defend myself for Clyne (was excellent for us) and Ings (honestly don’t recall him missing a chance he should have scored for us) among the subs but understand if others disagree. Honourable mentions to Flowers, Alderwiereld, Pahars and Beattie.

Any news on Stuart Armstrong?

Fair point. I think more pertinent perhaps is the fact that we have 7 pages of people arguing about responses to racism/perceived racism of which at least half portray a pretty high degree of anger at the press/‘woke’ peoples’ reactions and ‘preaching’. While some of this ‘preaching’ is likely over the top, I don’t recall seeing quite as many angry posts about actual racist abuse received by players at the euros. Pretty sure we didn’t get to 7 pages … or even close. I’d suggest if you genuinely feel deep-seated anger that needs expressing on this forum about perceived over-stating of/over-reaction to racism than actual racism itself there’s something fundamentally wrong with what things you consider wholly unpalatable in the modern world. Same applies to the pride shirt thread. How many pages of anger?? Really???

What some people on here are forgetting, though, is it is the players themselves making the gesture. Not the bbc, not the Marxist-agenda pushing press (whoever they are … is it a club?). It’s the players. Some of whom are black, and some of whom are their mates. They are the ones wanting to make a gesture showing they believe there is no place for racism in society. This Marxist ‘club’ may vocally support it and annoy some of you by talking loudly about it … but it’s still the players doing it. So the players … pampered and over-paid. Self-obsessed. Downright nasty, some of them. But they don’t like being booed (not really in uk, but virtually every time they play in Eastern Europe) and abused on social media for their or skin colour. And why should they? Just because they’re overpaid tw4ts they should lose their right to complain? If they were taking the knee to protest being booed for playing badly and losing I’d understand people’s opposition but they’re not. They’re protesting racism, they receive its abuse more than most (and who of us actually knows how that constant drip feed of vile abuse feels?) and want to protest it / slash support their mates. Why would anyone want to boo the players for this 5 second gesture? Final thought - hypo saying they were always going to provoke this response in Hungary because it’s quite a racist place so shouldn’t have done so (I paraphrase). WTF??? Trying to bring these places out of the dark ages by highlighting the issue and applying pressure via FIFA should be applauded. If the rest of the world tells you you’re wrong about something you might just listen. If it’s totally ignored you won’t. Worth a punt I reckon.

Have some people really not got anything to do on a Friday night than spout utter b0ll0cks about how the press are to blame for the modern wokist world that dares to report on racist chanting and produce a shirt supporting gender/sexual inclusion? Get a life, go to a pub, speak to another real human being, stop being an internet troll, stop being an out of touch dinosaur. You are showing yourself up to be an utter tool with the sort of sad existence I thought only the likes of MLG had. There really is more to life than internet message boards. And as much as you try and convince yourself and others you’re “winning” this ridiculous argument, you’re not. Take a vote, have a poll. Apart from hypo, everyone thinks you’re wrong and finds your views pretty unpleasant

6 comments today on this thread and none on the thread of the actual football match we played today. And to think someone had the nerve to call you a troll …

Is that going on your gravestone?

Change sleeps tonight to gates Pompey and it’s a winner

Great news - there’s some of these available in the saints store.

Pot / kettle

Maybe the point is Darren, 45 from Thornhill needs to learn to change his language because what was acceptable 20 years ago now isn’t. It’s the whole point of why and how token initiatives like this that don’t generate actual cash for actual charities are still useful and relevant. They highlight the issue and help generate discussions which help generate awareness, and eventually empathy and learning. 40 years ago n1gger and pak1 were common words, but we’d tell Darren 65 from thornhill that it’s not right just because it was ok when he was 25. I do understand the resistance to having political correctness rammed down our throats but since the pc brigade started I’d suggest there’s been significant (on average, always exceptions) improvement with sexism, racism, homophobia, disability rights etc. If the choice is wokism and the above improvements v no wokism and a society akin to the football stadium mentality of the 80s when I first started going, I’d take putting up with the pc brigade every day of the week.

Which is fine, of course, only I’ve never seen you been angry or hilariously sarcastic to racists, homophobes etc and yet one sniff of something too pc and you’re all over it. Interesting why one of those scenarios riles your sense of what’s right and the other doesn’t.

This is hilarious. I have literally no idea why anyone would have a problem with it. None.