saint lard

Thankyou very much S.I.P,much appreciated. For my sins i have just been listening to the brekkie show on Talksport,Alan Brazil is almost wetting himself that the tax man lost and that PFC won the case it almost made me vomit. I hate that bloke with a passion..

I am gutted,they have played a blinder.Cheating gits. Apologies for the next bit but i cannot start a thread or PM because my subsription run out,i used paypal to pay as per the norm,how long does it take to process and also i have had to change my email address but when i try to states my email is banned by admin. It prompts you to send a message to admin which i have done twice over the last couple of day but alas no reply or correspondance. Someone pass this on if poss. Ta muchly.

Steve Morans winner in the cup at Fratton. My dad and i ran the guantlet of abuse on the way home but it was all worth it,something he and i wont forget. When it went in i almost climbed the height of the fence i was behind on the terrace.magic.

Let the club die,harsh but fair,imo.

This is way better than Legoland...come on join the fun........ http://www.dailysport.com/view.asp?ID=3723

"If we win this then we should make AA our chairman, he has done a great job! I might get his name on the back of my Pompey shirt!" lmao...well done that man.

"Lots of blather from HMRC, lots of trying to have their cake and eat it too, lots of irrelevant stuff. They don't like Chainrai and pointed out that he controlled the club through his bank account and solicitor throughout. They demonstrated this by pointing out Chainrai and Kushnir directed Jacob on Dec 9th to undertake that all future moneys from the premier league would pass to them. Jacob also wrote to the PL on behalf of the club promising them the club would use the money to pay football creditors so hmrc brief said some unkind words about Jacob. The problem point was their claim that they had an undertaking from Andronikou on May 5th agreeing they could vote the £13m but it would be listed as 'objected to'. They said he reneged on this agreement. we have to answer that point, because if he accepted it was a legal assessment we have a problem. However, I think the answer is going to be that this would leave them free to simply issue an assessment of tax liability that makes them a ransom creditor in every case and then leave the bankrupt entity to try and appeal it after being denied a CVA - hardly fair."

Mark: Richard Sheldon QC, representing Pompey, has just got to his feet. He said that in March this year the other 19 clubs in the Premiership wanted the Blues kicked out of the league. He said: 'The clubs in the Premier League wanted to boot Portsmouth out there and then in March. 'it was only due to the intervention of the head of the Premier League, Richard Scudamore, that this course of action was averted' He said the league then offered to make an parachute payment which would have come during the 2010/11 season. 'This deal enabled Portsmouth to complete the season,' added Mr Sheldon. 'This was presented to Portsmouth very much as a fait accompli - they could take it or leave it. 'Mr Scudamore persuaded all 19 other clubs to do this. 'The other clubs wanted Pprtsmouth Football Club to go to the wall and divide all the TV and other money among themselves,' added Mr Sheldon. I know we are not getting this in it's context,but rather strange?

Mark: Chris reports that after one-and-a-half days of representations, Mr Mitchell has finally finished putting the Revenue's case. Please, Please let Android have some input for the defence,victory will be almost assured for HMRC;)

This was my first impression also. Obviously we don't know exactly what has been stated but the tack they have taken,if this is the crux,appears to have missed details of the fact figures were manipulated so that the HMRC were marginalised and unable to block the CVA at the time of voting.

Mark: Moving towards the end of his submission, Mr Mitchell said HMRC was determined to get the best deal for the taxpayer. He said: HMRC has always objected to football creditors receiving more favourable treatment to other creditors. 'HMRC says that the football creditors rule is simply wrong and wants it removed. 'We are not shooting ourselves in the foot as has been claimed by the club. 'There are very serious reasons why we are pursuing this appeal and that is to get the best outcome for the taxpayer.' He said the Revenue believed that a Company Voluntary Agreement, which Pompey has and under which it will pay back creditors 20p in the pound, was 'simply wrong' Wednesday August 4, 2010 11:06 Mark

A tad annoying is the fact that they have taken on the self appointed role of good guys,for the good of football,against the nasty taxman.

The comments are heavily vetted prior,managed to get a couple on yesterday,thinly disguised as a dumb skate however. before anyone says, it was damn tricky acting dumb.

[Comment From martypfc martypfc : ] "come on - lets win this for the good people left at our glorious club ." I have a little bit of sick in my mouth.

Might well be 10am,i was just going by when the Portsmouth news live thing goes...er ...live,about 10.15 it states.

Well,i wonder what todays court proceedings will turn up. Mr Android,please step forward and state your case for the defence....... Roll on 10.30..... http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/custompages/custompage.aspx?pageid=82690

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3080769/Raoul-Moat-fans-sick-funeral-boast.html I suspect the story has been somewhat embelished upon,and she may have got a few quid for her sound bites,but all the same...

I concur.

Lifted from a skate....... "The Judge asked whether HMRC were saying Employee Benefit Trusts were all flawed. he then went on to ask how the ones at Pompey didn't work if others worked and answer came there none. So I think the large element of EBT in the HMRC claim is gone. The point about image rights was not about whether its an abuse of tax in this case - of course it is. But the question was how it was counted and it was. At the very end our brief got up and said something along the lines of "Isn't this all a waste of time?" and the Judge said HMRC might want to reflect on that."

Tying up the Tal Ben Haim deal with West Ham .

AA now in the courtroom apparently.

Mr Mitchell said HMRC had worked out that Pompey owed the taxman £30m. 'This assessment goes back some way - to the tax year of 2006/07 - and has been a very complex investigation. 'PAYE should have been paid and has not been paid. 'What has happened is that for some years the club has entered into sham agreements under which players were being paid in repsect of image rights when in fact there was no commercial basis for it. 'It was a sham. It was a way in which the club could pay the money into a tax haven

Are HMRC going to fight the legislative issue ref the creditors rule and not directly fighting the way PFC have played the game? if so they don't have a chance in this case/hearing.imo.

Which really muddies the water,imo.