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Soggy is in shock

Odd comment. As a minimum Downes Charles Armstrong Archer Bednarek Arguably Edwards Would get into the majority of championship sides as a top player and definitely in the squads. Maybe even gronbaek too and Aribo performed well last year. If any of Lallana, Fernandes or THB stay then they will be one of the top players in their position in the league. Potentially even the likes of Amo Ameyew given he's had another year of development.

We never played him properly I thought it was a solid signing when we made it. Seems Martin wasted him really or perhaps he never really wanted him?

Yes this was just off the top of my head. It remains to be seen if we will ever actually see any of the players out on loan play for us or even if they are good enough to do so. It might be just a club group sort of thing and they eventually get sold to Turkey or similar.

I'm not so sure it will need much work. Baz/ new keeper Sugawara/Bree Wood Edwards/Bednarek Manning Downes Smallbone/Charles Armstrong Amo Ameyew Aribo/Gronbaek Archer/ New striker Requires very little doing to it to be competitive and that's before you consider that the likes of Lallana, THB, Fernandes or even Sulemana might stay for a season. Maybe a full back or two if we get rid of Taylor, a new keeper ideally and a striker.

I quite want to be in the Championship again where we can look forward to blowing almost all other Championship clubs out of the water for players. Obviously that would change after a couple of seasons but it will be fun for that period of time.

If Musk views Robinson as some sort of victim of the government then from his perspective Farage is throwing him to the wolves by effectively abandoning him so he's probably annoyed about it. There was some speculation that Musk would support the Tories which I think would be crap for everyone. No one centre right and further right wants the Tories in power at the moment because they are proven failures, If it is true that he's getting intel from Cummings then he's only going to get a slanted view on how things are.

Stuff like this should be discussed more sensibly. It won't be of course but it should.

Might as well sell him now if someone offers the cash.

Doubling down on what? He clearly has a belief that Robinson is being unjustly persecuted for talking about the government and about rape gangs. Musk is wrong but he obviously considers it a good way to continue his beef with Labour who he obviously dislikes.

Given the fact that you've described an actual paedophile as someone who doesn't commit the worst crimes in the world that's quite amusing.

I was replying to his point that Musk potentially did a subliminal nazi salute. Learn to read.

I was replying to soggy not you. I haven't commented on his beliefs.

So do you now accept that it's possible to disagree with you that Musk was doing a nazi salute without being 'cowed by Musk's wealth' or that believibg that is not an insult to Jewish people who died in concentration camps? Glad we can clear that up it's possible to have a difference of opinion without the opposing view being bad or evil in some way.

I didn't realise you could be a subliminal nazi and do an inadvertent nazi salute. Freaky stuff.

Eh? Of course you are entitled to think it was a nazi salute, just as I am entitled to think you're wrong. The discussion continued because we've had a number of statements about that difference of opinion including that I'm far right, a far right apologist, that anyone who thinks it isn't a nazi salute is cowed by Musk's wealth, that believing it's not a nazi salute in some way disrespects Jews who died in the holocaust and that the ADL are compromised because they've been neutered by Trump.

I see that the government is now blaming Amazon and the knife for the Southport attack. Personally I think we should just ban taxis then he never woukd have been able to get to the little girl's dance class.

I've got my laughing emoji primed and ready.

My point is that it isn't a settled issue like some are claiming. Equally because some people agree with you it doesn't make them or you correct. There's no comparison between what Musk did and Corbyn laying a wreath because there's no dispute that he actually did it.

Hardly the worst crime in the world.

It's disputed by an awful lot of credible people including organisations such as the ADL. Many individuals do not consider it clear, not least because of the words he used immediately after doing it and the fact he is laughing at the idea that it was viewed as one.

Or maybe when you say my heart goes out to you and you pat your heart and gesture up to the crowd. Musk has denied it was a nazi salute, no one here is making a claim that he's a Nazi so there seems little reason for him to do one and then deny it.

Is there any context where eit is possible to do a similar gesture and it not be construed as a Nazi salute?

Possible motive was that he was a racist and hated white English people:

It was ridiculous to have a go at Corbyn for not bowing enough if that's what someone was criticising him for. This account of Musk definitely doing a Nazi salute is disputed. There's no dispute that Corbyn placed a wreath.