hypochondriac

Less of a trial than taking on this poisoned chalice tbf.

Personally I'd give Warnock the job for the season.

The problem is that everyone called for Downes and Charles to be played together and now that hasn't worked we don't really have any midfield combinations left to try.

Genuinely don't know where we go from here.

Don't worry mate I can see you were positive. We all have hope at the start of a campaign but everyone can see this isn't good enough.

Something needs to change. This can't possibly continue. There's no sign of any improvement to hold on to.

This is ridiculous. Martin needs to go for me. 3 losses in a row and possibly 4 with another disgraceful performance this is appalling management.

Just fuck off. Sick of this.

That's probably enough of Holgate for me. Gave him the benefit of the doubt but I'm not sure he's up to it. Give Bree a go maybe.

Very very fortunate not to concede.

If it stays like this, Martin can't then say the players are learning, this is a totally different style. I'm glad because I didn't think he had it in him.

You need to be itk

I'm glad Martin has the balls to drop Manning. I didn't expect that.

Very early days but this looks a better shape so far.

He's at rb where he is ant do much damage and was actually half decent for West brom.

Assume Armstrong will play every game if fit. Glad someone other than Manning is playing. Also glad Charles and Downes are in midfield. I wouldn't have picked Fraser or smallbone but overall not awful.

It's not impossible no but its pretty unlikely now. We'd have to see a pretty sharp turn around in fortunes and plug those holes.

I do understand that but then why did we get in a load of players on loan, some with options to buy in the event of promotion? Either the aim was automatic promotion as they said, or the aim is to learn a complete new style of play and play the exact same way every week with the result that we slowly get better a little bit at a time. I don't think it's realistic to appoint someone like Martin, ask him to make wholesale changes and stick to his philosophy come hell or high and then expect us to go for automatic promotion. We'd have been better writing off the season, crossing our fingers for playoffs with some good end of season form and then going again next year with a core of players who do understand the system and can implement it better. All we are going to do this year is fall below the expectations of the majority of fans for the season and piss the long suffering fans off further and then we will lose Sulemana, Fraser, Adams, KWP, THB and try again next year but with worse players.

What's wrong with changing things up a bit from game to game, changing up the formation based on who we are playing? No one has yet explained why having a philosophy means having to make the same mistakes constantly until we get a bit better at it.

Bit harsh on Edozie.

It's not that they can't see it, it's that Martin accepts it and think it's worth conceding goals in this way if it helps us to play the way he wants us to. He's a slave to his system.

So essentially he is saying exactly what most fans said on here before the game about what was wrong and what we were going to do. We did exactly what we said we would do and therefore lost the game.

That's a much better team. I'd go with that.

Because the point is that in my opinion, Ballard has a greater chance to positively affect things this season if he is given the chances that Mara is currently getting (and let's remember Mara started a game a couple of weeks ago so he has had more than the odd five minutes). I'd rather have Ballard in that position than Mara.

So is Mara developing by coming on for five minutes here and there? For my money Ballard would do more to help the club this year if we had sold Mara and given him his role for the season. Very difficult for him to do worse abd I'd rather see him play than seeing Mara fail off the bench for another season.