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Presuming he means the women's team?

He's our biggest asset. Selling him probably means we can keep hold of more.

Realistically we do need to sell. I just hope we can hold out to maximise value.

Not just that, we had a number of players who individually were good enough for the prem but we didn't have enough depth in the squad and nowhere near enough guile and experience. We also played a number of confused systems so the squad was unsettled with many not really sure of their roles. I reckon an incredibly disciplined team woukd have come a lot closer to survival. It was the setup as much as the personnel that was the problem.

As much as the first friendly is largely meaningless, it does highlight that some of that same mindset still remains when we are toothless going forward and lack bravery which seems to be essential in a Martin team. Rather than trying to make big mentality changes, it maybe simpler just to sell off quite a number and then replace them with new players that may be of slightly lesser ability but who are less tainted and scarred by the last few years.

The best thing about these players being shite is that I genuinely could not give a shit if they are sold. There's a couple that I think would be nice to keep (largely ones who joined in January or were nothing to do with last year) but otherwise any one of them coukd get sold and I'd be confident we could replace with a better mindset and a bit of bottle.

Tella was one of the top attackers in the championship last year and is a young English player on a long contract. I can't see how he isn't worth at least 20. If we were going to accept 15 then he would have gone by now. ABK is a young German international on a long contract. I'd be amazed if we couldn't get 20+ for him from a European team. I suppose that one is more arguable given he's had a few injuries.

I think we will need to sell Lavia for more than 40 give the man city sell on clause. Jwp should be 25 with addons perhaps for 5 so 30 in total. KWP is 15, Tella we could easily get 20 for and ABK should absolutely go for 20+. That's £120 million and I think that is absolutely realistic.

Not a chance are we going to sell those four and only receive 90 million. You also forgot about Tella.

Olivier Bernard.

100 million in sales is easy Lavia 40 ABK 25 KWP 15 Adams 15 Diallo 5 Could add a few more defenders to that for small amounts and maybe someone like Sulemana or Tella of course. What it does show is that there's no obligation to sell jwp unless he wants to go.

He was just a nothing player who you forgot was playing. Rarely had any sort of influence on the game both positive and negative. I'm glad he's going.

Excellent.

I think a fresh start is for the best for all of us. If we can get a couple of attackers in it will hopefully give us a new direction rather than sticking with the players who have been at best inconsistent. I'd probably sell Mara too.

You'd think if City have some sort of unofficial linkup with us, it would be in their interest to sell us some decent players to increase our chances of getting back up and giving their players some chances against the best opposition. Deals like Lavia are a bit like a posh loan if they tighten up their buy back deals.

No idea what he's like but Tino was great and it was reported we best some top clubs to his signing and it's been reported that Dortmund were in for this guy so it's a good sign.

He could genuinely be decent this year if he stays alongside a new face. I'd prefer him to Salisu or Bednarek (and I assume ABK is off.)

Yes and then there's been other pre season games where we have spaffed all over a team and dicked them and you have everyone jizzing themselves (I mean look at the ott reaction to Aribo last year) and then it has no bearing on how we've performed over a season. The reality that preseason performance often have very little bearing on how a season goes, what you want to see is signs that the players are learning the system, showing bravery and putting some touches and movement together and I think we got the beginnings of that. Let's not forget that most of these players won't be playing alongside the players they were playing with today so it's less about a team performance at this stage and more about how individuals that we think are going to be here are coping.

Who had first 90 minutes of preseason in the pants pissing sweepstakes?

Looks pretty well liked to me

Bree didn't look great to me. Agree with the rest.

Eh? They liked him and he looked like one of our better players. Bizarre comment.

Sounds very much like we need some new attacking players. Would make sense why we've been linked with some wingers. I'd personally sell Che Adams and bring in someone new.

Now that's over who do we think might thrive with these tactics? Bazunu perhaps? Smallbone, Tino, Meghoma. Any of the other youngsters look up for it? I, certainly think we improved in the second half.

Good to hear. Seems like Smallbone has done quite well with it to. I hope people like Alcaraz could adapt to it as well. Sounds like Bree might struggle but maybe not too bad if he's just backup anyway?