hypochondriac

Possibly but can it be proved and are we going to admit to that (and he was eager to have his say so clearly there's more to it than black and white.)

I assume they seek the opinion of the efl though for sanctions which I assume will play some part in the process.

Don't be silly. We know it is him.

The context must be relevant to some extent or there wouldn't be much need for a long panel. Unless we are challenging the charge of spying which I haven't seen much indication that we are.

They only won the media war by default because we didn't enter.

All the journalists have ever said is the range of sanctions available if we are found guilty of various things. If it is found that Tonda orchestrated things then yes of course he would be subject to a length ban. Doesn't mean that's the reality or that they have found anything like that.

Even if we sent someone we would still need time to establish a time line and who was aware of what and when. I'd suggest that's really a holding statement rather than a suggestion of anything deeper.

Weren't you wetting you knickers yesterday about being kicked out?

Boro haven't set this up that's completely far fetched. Maybe this ex intern had a hand in setting the guy up but even that feels quite unlikely to me.

It's top 8 next year which would still be achievable.

I'd take it though. Particularly if they don't apply next year if we go up.

Yeah it's on social media as chinese whispers. No one has actually heard something reliable

Twats on social media from supporters of both clubs saying they have heard decision reached and it's entirely opposing outcomes. In reality of course nothing has been decided yet.

Pretty sure he said it on one of the podcasts too. Either football Martin or TSP

Do we have any evidence at all thus far that Tonda is involved?

I'd also be interested to know whether the EFL would consider a less harsh sanction if it avoided them having to move the final with all the upheaval that entails. Maybe that wouldn't be a factor I don't know.

Are the panel likely to take into account any of the conduct of Middlesbrough over the past few days including the statement on their website when deciding on sanctions?

Cheers for your posts they are very informative.

If we were investigating who knew what and when how could we contest the charge if we didn't know the facts?

Once it was clear it was out intern it was always going to get to this point regardless. We may be kicked out or we may not but the timing of the hearing will have nothing to do with it.

That makes no sense. It's pushing to Tuesday (or just before) regardless. Plus if they are kicking us out it's in their interest to announce that at the earliest opportunity.

If we go by what is suggested in the media, this hearing is going to be led by different people from the ones doing the spying. If we assume that solak and the board were unaware of this thing.

It isn't dragging on. The deadline is Tuesday at the latest it's dragging on the exact amount of time it was yesterday.

Apologies if I phrased that poorly. What I mean to say is that I'm not bothered about statements to the media or anything like that. Of course we shouldn't blatantly lie to the panel. My assumption is that we won't do that.

Well of course but I was assuming we wouldn't be so stupid as to make it worse by lying in the hearing with something that can be proven to be false. My point is that nothing should be said by us until we've beaten the charges or are contesting them.