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What an odd response. I'm not sure anyone has ever suggested we have solved the problem of racism (actually that's an impossibility) but there's absolutely no doubt that things are markedly different from where they were a couple of decades ago.

Oh I'm sure there would be a handful of idiots shouting stuff but that's true of the wider population and in the same way you'd get some thugs shouting racist stuff. Generally these people are identified and banned though so I doubt it would last long. Like. I said though, I imagine some gay footballers judt want to be left alone and the media in particular should respect that.

The minister for allotments and ill-fitting jumpers.

Worth noting that we don't actually know the reasons why people aren't more open about it. Maybe they would prefer sexuality to be a private thing, maybe the thought of the silly, fuss the media would make is off putting and some would prefer a quieter life just playing football. If I were a gay professional footballer there's no way I'd want to out myself considering the microscope you would be put under.

The key word being was. It WAS quality that's the problem. I quite agree with you by the way, it is good to have the BBC as a choice just as long as I can choose not to pay a fee for it if I don't want it.

When you say this, which posters are you talking about specifically?

Ever heard of Netflix? Literally thousands of shows for children. I'd recommend masha and the bear. YouTube kids is also available.

The point is that all these comedies are decades old. I loved the BBC but its a shadow of its former self. When you get bbc execs openly boasting that they wouldn't greenlight the likes of monty python today you know it's past its sell by date.

Would it? I'm not so sure that's true. When a Premier league player does finally come out, the next game will be guards of honour, rainbow laces, pride flags and multi-coloured mohawks. I reckon anyone shouting abuse at the player in that scenario is looking at very heavy punishment.

If that's the case then why distinguish what they do with a separate term at all? Imo coming out implies some sort of public expression. Abolish the phrase coming out entirely and I reckon that would be a positive thing. I'm happy when people can just exist as either gay or straight without feeling the need to make a big show of it because it proves we are a more tolerant society than we used to be.

If you're just doing what every other couple does then it's not really coming out is it, otherwise you could say that heterosexual couples are coming out simply by going on a date.

What's the common factor about every comedy you just listed in your first list.

Here's the corrected graph with the US and China added in.

I do wonder what would have happened if someone like Philip Schofield had been refused an interview on this morning and literally no one talked about it because it wasn't news how Philip would have really felt about that. I don't think he'd admit it but I reckon he'd have been really disappointed that the fact he is gay wasn't front page news. I think for most gay people they just want to blend in and be who they are but we all know there is an element that think they are special and want to metaphorically scream their identity at everyone.

It's hard to criticise as it's obviously a different time, but I can imagine that clough wouldn't have handled somethibg like that particularly well. It's a shame he wasn't born a few decades later, a top footballer coming out as gay now would make millions.

That's good to know. It seems that some people want to continue to make a big song and dance out of it sadly. As you say, hopefully with the next generation we won't have these sort of attitudes.

Now I remember who you are. You're the poster that got all sweary and angry a couple of years ago because some posters criticised the club's transgender flag waving virtue signalling. That makes sense. From memory you had a trans family member. Just a suggestion but maybe it's better not to start calling people names like homophobic if your judgement is clouded by your personal associations. Creating arguments on side points as you describe it may annoy you but it's hardly evidence of bigotry.

Well you're wrong there. There's certainly an argument to continue something outward Facing and unique that exports British culture abroad. There's a much stronger argument to continue the world service for example than most of the stuff on bbc 2 which is largely identical to the sort of thing you can find on itv.

The BBC used to be a great British institution before it became the right on, woke, propaganda mess of the last decade. Seeing it drastically slimmed down- my preference- would be long overdue.

Congrats on coming out.

Yes loads of abuse. Let's be thankful that the situation is markedly different now eh? Not sure what the hall of fame is but he was definitely a pioneer so I'm cool with him being honoured. Must have been very difficult for him.

Small mercies but at least the bloke had the good sense to kill himself. Evil come in many forms.

Just checked and it is. If ever there was a shining symbol of why the license fee needs scrapping then that is it. What possible justification is there for this to continue to exist? https://www.bbc.com/pidgin

Yep. If the BBC continues then it should be strictly for programmes that wouldn't/couldn't be produced elsewhere. Excellent documentaries, high brow cultural programmes, impartial educational content. Absolutely no need for the majority of horrendous comedies of the last few years, strictly come dancing can be binned off, all pop based radio shows can die and any panel shows as well. I'm much more sympathetic to shows of actual importance like Attenborough stuff, the Brian Cox documentaries, panorama provided it's monitored. Stick on repeats for daytime telly if you must have things like bargain hunt but a whole host of that content should not be funded by the license fee. That's before we've even spoken about the waste online and abroad. Is bbc pidgin still operating ffs?

That graph is being widely mocked and criticised for being at best misleading.