hypochondriac

You can do what you like but let's not pretend it does anything of consequence. Lobbying countries to talk to China about it would probably have more of an effect.

Disagree. It makes a few smelly hipsters feel good about themselves to p*ss people off so it's clearly very important.

Bunch of hippies that need a shower.

Since when has the justice system worked on the basis of a "fine line" between guilty and innocent? Who decides how fine the line is before he's judged to be innocent? He's either found guilty of a crime or is found innocent and should be treated accordingly because that's how the justice system works. What confused messed up thinking you have. And you still haven't apologised for referring to those who had doubts about the guilty conviction as "rape apologists." shocking really. Time to move on indeed.

Good point. We already have a defence force, why then do you think we would require an EU army then do you think?

It's the people saying it would never ever happen who are now deriding people for being nervous about the direction of travel in Europe. Let's remember that this is an EU looking to punish Italy for daring to implement the promises they were elected for and look at how Greece were forced into a surrender. Next time they will have military power to back it up led by the Germans. They want "an empire of the good" and they don't realise how hilarious a phrase like that sounds? If you point any of this out though you are dismissed as "dangerous fantisists" but people aren't stupid, they can see where the EU has been heading despite those at the top openly admitting that they lie about it. Look at the amount of supposedly democratic votes that have been lost by the EU where the result is either ignore or they are forced to vote again until they vote the right way. They are now well on their way to doing the same with brexit which makes a mockery of the idea that the people are listened to. Let's be honest, if they allowed the general public to have a say about an EU army they would be resoundingly defeated. They are only interested in consolidating their power.

Sprinkling of sovereignty this year, a little EU army next year. Its nothing to be bothered about as long as they do it slowly. I wonder if the current direction of travel had been made clear to the public of the EU even twenty years ago what the reaction would have been.

I wouldn't worry. Talk of an EU army is just a dangerous fantasy...

Well to be fair it sounds like that job is a bit of a sham. I can understand not taking that job at this stage as clearly they just want someone to be a cheerleader for this terrible deal but if he knows he can't support this deal, how can he possibly stay in the cabinet?

I can't be annoyed at someone who states an honest opinion. If you don't care about sovereignty then that's fair enough at least it's a sincerely held belief I just fundamentally disagree.

Lol gove not resigning. What a man of principle!

To be fair we have some cracking options now. Sancho, lingard, kane, Ali, sterling, rashford, Loftus-cheek, barkley and possibly foden in a year or two. There can't be many better attacking lineups in international football.

Agreed and with respect, desiring a United States of Europe would undoubtedly be a minority view in this country.

Even the people who don't want to leave realise that they want a united States of Europe. To some people that doesn't seem to matter but it certainly matters to me. We've massively screwed up brexit so now my hope is on the latest European elections or the populists governments joining forces and trying to change the direction. Anyone pro EU on here can't tell me that whenever they see the smug faces of juncker or verhofstadt openly laughing at the idea of democracy or the idea of independent nation states they don't feel very depressed.

It's not just an economic union, you know it isn't.

It's not going to be that choice and everyone knows it. The EU leaders were floating about it today. They know that we aren't going to opt for no deal so it's going to be this awful deal that gives them everything they wanted or we are going to end up grovelling to stay in which they will obviously accept. Just like every other vote that the public have on EU treaties etc it will be ignored or the public will be made to vote again. The great EU project seemingly cannot be stopped via democratic means, I'll just have to hope that it's upended by the European elections but even that is unlikely.

I think anyone who is punished for a crime that they are subsequently found not guilty of has been hard done by. It appears that you would have to agree with them politically or think they are a nice person before you think they are hard done by.

Nah. U saw earlier that if they had even half the tories saying they are going to vote it down then she would still lose. She doesn't have a hope.

She obviously knows. Maybe she thinks it's better optics to resign after she loses the vote than now.

Feck off Theresa pretending that the people support you.

Turd that won't flush!

He won't get any credit for it despite being entirely correct. Clegg should hang his head in shame.

Agreed. I've always been a fan of Fat Bottomed Girls.

I agree.

More please. She has to be removed for the good of the country.