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In what universe is writing a post about a court case an overreaction? I just don't think the police should be wasting their time recording thousands of non-crimes if they are stretched to breaking point. This is particularly true if these non-crimes are showing up on enhanced DBS checks and potentially preventing people from getting a job. That view holds true even if the overall percentage of resources allocated to this sort of thing is small (although there's probably more of it than you think.) I never said it was top of my list but the current allocation of police resources is definitely something that should be in the conversation if we are potentially looking to increase the current resources. It seems you agree it is nonsense so that's good, maybe we have some common ground.

You clearly haven't read the judgement or you haven't understood it. That's not what it is at all. Here's the full story if you actually have an open mind about this stuff- which I doubt. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-51501202

I'm sure you'll be delighted to find out that Harry Miller won his case this morning and what the police have been doing has been ruled unlawful. The recording of the non-crime hate incident has also been ruled unlawful in conjunction with the investigation.. Great news. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-51501202

Suewhistle? Still waiting for all these threads I've made complaining about equality, Muslim sex offenders, minorities, gays and trans etc. You weren't talking absolute cack were you?

Hi Sue nice to hear from you. I'm curious, where are these threads I started complaining about equality, Muslim sex offenders, minorities, gays and trans? I'll wait.

Yes that was my point. That attitude is why Labour got smashed at the election.

You're the one bringing it up in this totally unrelated topic for some reason. I mentioned it in the Labour leadership thread because it was the main news item about the Labour leadership yesterday. Not exactly shoehorning talking about Labour leadership candidates in a thread about the Labour leadership. Maybe just stick to replying to comments in the actual thread they are made rather than irrelevant comments dragged in about other topics?

I don't recall any rage from myself about silly things like that. I did get a bit upset about the mass rape of underage girls though but that's something most sane people would feel emotion over. Maybe ask yourself why you don't appear to care so much about it.

The level of vitriol being flung at someone for merely being associated with a high profile Conservative and terms like "NeoTories" tends to mark someone out as being from the left if not a Corbynite. In my experience, moderates tend to sound slightly more reasonable.

Given they've been phoning these people as well as interviewing them under caution in some cases, I imagine it takes up a fair amount of time. That's without even mentioning the hit to police credibility with the public for pursuing this nonsense. Besides, any amount of time wasted on non crime is time that could be spent on actual crimes. 2 extra crimes investigated per police force per day would be a good start.

Any quoting of religious texts is odd. My only issue is when people actually start following them and harming people in the process otherwise they can do what they like.

Nice to see the tolerant and loving left wading into the discussion. A different kind of politics from them.

Source?

Source?

That's not what I said was it. At a time when resources are "stretched to breaking point", is investigating non crime hate incidents like supposedly transphobic limericks on twitter a wise use of police resources? Instead of recording 87,000 non crimes over the past five years, might it have been better to try and get some of those thefts investigated? I wonder if they had concentrated on that instead how many more could have been looked into. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/05/police-forces-record-thousands-hate-incidents-year-even-though/

It's really weird that you think anyobe has been trying to defend anything in the Bible.

Like transphobic limericks on twitter? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/24/man-investigated-police-retweeting-transgender-limerick/ Is the cataloguing of non hate crime incidents - these are non criminal incidents perceived by the victim to be motivated by hate - an effective and efficient use of stretched police resources?

Thank goodness. I was worried there would be abother Muslim story up next but we've managed to get an evil Christian one in instead. Phew.

Not looking great for the euro... https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-02-11/euro-s-decline-reflects-political-turmoil-economic-woes

"relaxed." lol.

Erm you know I was agreeing with you right?

Egg has some ridiculous opinions but he's 100% right here.

So then Corbynistas, are trans women women? Are trans men men? If the answer is anything other than yes then you're transphobic and you're getting expelled from the party if corbyn with tits gets in: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51465800

If the majority of a country is white, then it is natural to see the majority of any crime being committed by white people. The concern is when communities are disproportionately involved in any particiular crime. If Hasidic Jews were wildly disproportionately involved in burglaries I'd want to investigate it to understand why this is the case. How is this any different? The disproportionate number raises questions about attitudes within that community. People just don't like the statistics. One of the main defendants in the Rotherham case argued as his defence at trial that it was his religious right to have sex with these girls. It's simply a nonsense to suggest that religion is not a factor.

And again, if there were widespread examples of slavery in the UK in 2020 and numbers of seemingly ordinary people were doing it and using Bible passages for justification then I'd be at the front of the queue to push for justice for the victims and to demand an investigation into their motivations. If a ton of people were currently following a literal interpretation of the bible like the Westboro Baptist Church and were abusing gay people in the streets then I'd be calling that out too.