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That may well be true- certainly hatred of all Muslims will be the motivation for some bigoted types who are members of the edl- but I would suggest that normal members of the public should be equally shocked and appaled by gangs commiting some of the worst crimes imaginable- primarily British Pakistani Muslim gangs raping underage White girls with no remorse because they see them as sub human. Any right thinking person should be absolutely horrified regardless of their biases towards Muslims or their thoughts on Islam. Hopefully we can all agree on that.

I know why you posted that. Here's Douglas writing a typically superb and balanced article on the matter. I'd be interested to know which parts of it you disagree with. https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/tommy-robinson-grooming-gangs-britain-persecutes-journalist/amp/?__twitter_impression=true "The primary issue is that for years the British state allowed gangs of men to rape thousands of young girls across Britain. For years the police, politicians, Crown Prosecution Service, and every other arm of the state ostensibly dedicated to protecting these girls failed them. As a number of government inquires have concluded, they turned their face away from these girls because they were terrified of the accusations of racism that would come their way if they did address them. They decided it wasn’t worth the aggravation."

Exactly. We wouldn't get relegated with them in the squad and fans would much rather give them a chance than see long for the 100th time. I'd genuinely rather see some achievement with some homegrown youngsters than a bunch of foreigners who don't give a toss and who will be off the first chance they get anyway.

And yet we performed so poorly without them last season. Would we have been worse with those four in the team? I suspect not.

An odd thing to say considering all of our players who have been out on loan have played for us at various points. Reed was good enough a few years back when we finished mid table but not good enough for a team finishing 17th?

Yes, we made a choice to loan out youth players and let other teams play them. It's a choice we obviously wouldn't have made under pochettino.

It's not irrelevant since the point Adrian was making is that we consciously made a decision not to give youth a chance and to buy in expensive players. Had we decided to give Gallagher some game time this year then we wouldn't have bought Carillo and would probably have ended up with a better player. Harrison Reed was good enough to be in the squad a few years ago, what has changed? Likewise Targett. I'd rather see them

Would Gallagher really have been much worse than Carillo last season?

Cool. I'll give you a vote.

So because I don't think he's a neo nazi monster I must totally agree with him or think he's a lovely bloke? It's not a black or white scenario. I've listened to some of his recent media interviews and there are some things he says that are worthy of sensible debate. I don't think he's a neo nazi monster that some people portray him as. I'd prefer to listen to what he says and make up my own mind thanks. Obviously the likes of the Oxford Union felt he had something worth discussing as he was given a platform there. I've already said how he says things and comes across is going to turn many people off and I disagree with a lot of what he says and does too but I'm not going to entirely dismiss someone because he's called a nazi by the guardian and people on twitter.

I don't fall into either but nice try to attempt to falsely pigeon hole me. I already said he only has himself to blame for the conviction. The spiked article I linked already summarises my views clearly. Tommy Robinson is no free speech advocate in this case but neither is he a neo nazi monster that some would have you believe.

Here's a very good article on the matter: http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/tommy-robinson-is-no-free-speech-martyr/21448#.Ww6MXsvTWdM "Free speech is too important for us to allow it to be consistently warped and slandered by both left and right. Free speech is about allowing a free and unhindered exchange of ideas. But, at the same time, we must recognise that the reason Robinson has a career is that we have become overly sensitive as a society to the kind of arguments he makes. He is a product not of too much free speech, but of too little. His arrest is not symbolic of a state conspiracy to shut him up. But it is at least connected to our continuing discomfort with discussing certain ideas."

My avatar has entirely achieved its objective.

It was mostly popularised by hillary Clinton doing a bizarre hit piece on it during the election campaign. It was then carried on with kekistan parodying identity politics and the tendency from certain sections to see racism in everything they disagree with. It could be described as childish but then most memes tend to be which I think is part of their appeal. Certainly its existence seems to get all the type of people you would avoid at a party incredibly wound up.

Will they? Would be a very brave judge who declared a mistrial based on that. I agree though, what he did was stupid.

My point is it would definitely increase the audience and raise the profile if that is what they want. I'm not fussed either way I just thought it curious that they tried to make it its own separate thing and yet had the exact same rules and regulations as the men which highlights the difference in quality.

I never understood why they don't play women's sports in tandem with the men's (it works for tennis.) if they had the women's World Cup on during the men's version and extended that to cricket and other sports then it would definitely get a lot more interest. I personally wouldn't watch a women's World Cup, but if it's on immediately after the men's game then I'd probably give it a watch.

Depends on your definition of a moron I suppose. I certainly think he doesn't help his cause with the way he speaks sometimes and he doesn't choose his language carefully enough to ever be acceptable to a mainstream audience, but it is galling when he is wilfully misrepresented by the likes of Piers Morgan. I definitely think it's unfair to characterise "most" of his supporters as a bunch of far right nut bars, certainly he attracts some unsavoury characters but there are a number of perfectly legitimate people that worry about the erosion of free speech in the UK and the prevalence of Muslim rape gang trials etc and who share a common cause with the likes of Tommy Robinson in that respect, yet wouldn't recognise your characterisation of far right at all. Personally I think a bit more respect from both sides would be healthy and it would have probably meant there was less tension and he wouldn't have got himself banged up by some in authority desperate to get rid of him.

I don't think he's a moron, but he isn't the person who's going to persuade Middle England to his cause due to who he is and how he presents himself. Someone like Douglas Murray has a much better chance considering he's gay, erudite and chooses his words carefully.

To be fair, whilst the law is questionable, he did potentially compromise the court proceedings through his careless reporting. I would suggest it wasn't the smartest thing in the world to go live streaming outside a case that has reporting restrictions when he already has a suspended sentence for contempt of court. I have sympathy for him and I think the sentence is incredibly harsh and they've obviously gone after him because of who he is, but he did leave himself open to something like this because technically he did break the law.

I know an ex spurs youth player who still knows people at the club. The rumour there is that they are selling Ali, keeping kane and getting bale back. Interesting to see if that is true.

Good to know. If true though it's a bit of a pr misstep (again) to not get it sorted quickly.

Well there's a lot to be concerned about but that's quite clearly bullsh*t.

But then how do you explain January? Or the previous January? Are you suggesting that even with constraints it was an impossibility to get in a fonte replacement or a vvd replacement or a creative midfielder?

I really thought the club had a great chance to turn things around a bit after that abortion of a season. Appoint Hughes early doors, put some bullsh*t statements out about unity and purpose and marching on together as one, get a nice early signing in before the world Cup and get everyone excited for a full pre season in China and starting the new season with a bang. Instead we get the paralysis and the dithering before possibly Hughes walking away, us smearing him in the press or some other PR to cover our a*ses and hide the fact that we have no money and bringing in another no mark coach from the continent or a young English coach with little experience to continue the inept football. I think Ralph was telling the truth about us being a small club- expectations have clearly been reined in since the new guys took over and showed no interest in investing in the club other than setting up some pointless Chinese academies that no one in England gives a tinkers cuss about. Continue on this path and we will have further disillusionment, the malaise will continue and we will be down within three years and I can't see us returning.