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Buy yourself a radio watch, the Express were doing a decent Casio for about £30. It's accurate to better than a second updated by radio three times overnight. I'm one of those last second buyers.

I've found a lot of very smart people on this site, they may not agree sometimes but for detective work and information they take some beating.

I heard Fry today describe it as insolvency arrangements or something like that. A couple of months ago at a meeting with LMc, LC and Mary Corbett she said things were so bad with the club they couldn't fund administration.

I see that MLT is saying that they will meet the league on Monday and complete the next day. If they do that I take back the criticisms I have made of them. The league apparently gave them 8 pages of conditions, so maybe they have just cause to delay. I admit the thought of the club liquidating on Friday really wound me up, more so because there is no longer time to mount a public rescue. Although I would expect Anthony Salz to maybe try.

Simon, I understand there were 8 pages of conditions from the league. That sounds pretty damn complicated to me. Just maybe, Pinnacle do have a beef.

As long as somebody buys the club before Friday, or at least puts some money up to pay the staff.

The reason I knew something was simple. I was criticising you and a few others regarding attitude on the site to the person concerned at a match. He actually asked me to cut you some slack as you had personal problems. He wouldn't elaborate. As far as I am concerned you can fire as many insults as you like and it's water off a ducks back. I think you are contemptible. Why you don't give yourself a break is beyond me.

Because even a moron could work out that there was an apathy from the public and that after a million was pledged on the site less than £100k was pledged in 3/4 weeks once it went public. The only way to keep an appeal going would be to actually start collecting the money, which in the event of the club being bought would have to be returned, itself a logistical nightmare. All concerned realised we could not do this. It was clear that unless the people thought their club was going to the wall there would be no further interest. Because the parties concerned were vying for publicity and putting out the message that both were definite buyers it meant there was no interest in a public rescue. I have better things to do with my life than try to rescue something that the people clearly don't care about. Finally don't you dare criticise me or the people that at least tried to raise awareness. It is the vociferous do nothings like yourself that have nothing better to do than distribute your bile on this site. I personally did what I could and I really don't give a rats arse for your comments. I personally am very happy, comfortably off and can bloody well do what I like and I don't have to answer to you or anybody else.

Everything adds up but something has happened to change things because the administrator doesn't see it happening with Pinnacle. The reason for not completing doesn't stack up. They have said they are going to buy the club then why not buy it and continue the negotiations with the league. Unless I am wrong which is always likely, they have the money and they aren't going to blink until the club is 10 minutes from liquidation hoping the league blinks first, as there are no other takers.

Good advice. It does put it in perspective. Just maybe this thread may provoke a reasoned response from those concerned. But I somehow doubt it.

That was the first question I asked. It may have something to do with blaming someone so as to get the money spent back. If Crouch lent the money instead of donating it, that is if he did put the money up, there would probably be personal liability. The big one as you put it is not being able to mount a viable rescue. I just feel frustrated by the wasted two years and now the charade being staged that is going to leave a lot of staff in dire straits. That is unless the dream comes true and somebody buys us next week. If that happens I hold my hands up, unless it's somebody new or the Swiss. I just think it's like playing the lottery, all the bloody tickets end up in the bin.

Both, I was told last Saturday that they were looking to get out, but didn't want to believe it. The source was a good one. Also said the Swiss were a better bet. But who knows !

It just doesn't look credible any more and the publicity is bizarre.

Yes:(.

Don't eat the polos, after Friday you'll probably be able to get the lot in exchange for them:(

They may well be trying to close the deal, but they are going a funny way about it. The publicity of the last two days has been bizarre.

I wish you success. The problem you have is the probable liquidation of SFC next Friday if there is no buyer. You will probably need £500k at least up front on Friday if we aren't bought. I suggest you contact Anthony Salz if you haven't done so, you will need all the help you can get. Best of luck.

'Possible' but now unlikely. I don't know about Marc Jackson but the evidence is stacking up against Pinnacle. It's the fact that we the fans don't have the time now to save something if we are not bought next week. FFS the administrator obviously thinks they aren't going to buy us.

All we have got from the two parties was that they had the money and could definitely buy the club. I accept that the deal offered by Jackson was staged payments and sidelined by Fry. However he has changed backers since then and that doesn't look credible to me. The Pinnacle bid looks dead in the water. I was told last week that Pinnacle were looking to get out but I didn't want to believe it. I was told that the Swiss were worth more than a billion and much more credible, but that means nothing unless they do buy us. Yesterday the BBC called me and asked whether there was any chance we would resurrect the appeal. I now know why. No wonder he sounded disapointed when I told him there was no hope, as there was no time as the money had run out.

It's not the wealthy people that are the problem. It's the one's that aren't wealthy and rely on finding a third party to pay that are. There are a lot of people who work for SFC who aren't being paid. Yet last week two groups made statements that they could pay and backtracked. It's them I feel for.

What bit don't you buy? The picture is becoming clear, it isn't going to happen. The fact still remains that we might have saved something. The reality is that unless the deal is done next week nothing will be saved. The result of all the talking by all the parties is no sale.

Whatever chance there was of putting together a realistic rescue and keeping the club going in the league, has been scuppered by the groups who were gambling on maybe getting somebody to ante up the money. As far as the Pinnacle bid is concerned the administrator has come out and said that the reason for not going ahead, is not a good enough reason not to complete. Marc Jackson and Tony Lynham between them have used up the three months that money could have been raised to keep us going. Whilst the council could still buy the stadium unless a third party (possibly the Swiss) complete next week the club itself is a goner. Either those two groups now just bugger off and admit they were just chancers or shut up and buy the club. Alternatively pool the mythical resources which won't happen. I am now of the opinion that the Swiss are the last chance saloon. If they don't come good then that's it I'm afraid, as we no longer have the time to mount a rescue.

Be cheaper to buy Salisbury or Eastleigh and move to St Mary's. The Stadium could be self sustaining with concerts,corporate facilities etc.

There is a way for the Swiss to speed things up. Take over from Pinnacle, by initially joining up, completing, then Pinnacle walk. Leaving the Swiss in charge. That's of course if as alleged the funds are not available.

Solent rang me yesterday about something else. I had a chat and the person I spoke to was of the opinion that the Swiss were a better bet. If they do come in they can hardly claim that the league is holding things up as they are fully aware of the situation. The upside is great if they do and the people will be paid, the downside is 'what a farce of a close season', and it still doesn't mean we will be sold.