TBH the very 1st post said all that needs saying, the rest is just argumentative and speculative tosh. It's very simple from what I ( as a non ITK'er or member of any club) can see, Crouch Wilde and Lowe all made mistakes. However, whilst Lowe and Wilde cared not a damn and just ran for the hills Crouch stood by us and bailed us out of a massive hole and for that alone he can be forgiven any perceived mistakes he made as far as I'm concerned.