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Two of those were quality defenders and coming forward. That would account for a lot of the change.

Ref doesn't like Long then. That's two obvious decisions against him.

Whichever way we try to dress up the new signings - we are significantly weaker than last year and we have more games to play. It's not a good combination.

At a lower level he'd probably be okay. Just doesn't look up to the pace and awareness required in the Premiership. So far.

Idiotic booking too.

Watford having the better of the game so far.

We do look more like a bunch of individuals now. But there is new faces so I suppose it's to be expected.

At this stage you'd have to say the black box is broken.

Cedric not so strong defensively. Vic playing for a move?

Romeu and Wanyama both pushed up there leaving a hole in the middle. They need to talk to each other.

Just the kind of breaking news we need on the eve of a match.

We still need to strengthen for the season ahead. We need more quality in the middle and at the back. Game could have gone either way today.

Yoshida. Who needs Clyne

Last year we had this plucky confidence, truly believed we could beat anyone on our day and we duly did so. This season I just can't see that energy, that belief, that quality.

It does look that way, and I agree. You'd have thought we'd strengthen and improve for Europe. But we've become weaker.. leaving our profits largely unspent.

This could go either way, worryingly.

I guess we are bound to lack a bit of coherency with new faces and formation.

Targett looks like an accident about to happen. Really needs to up his game. I have no confidence in this defence.

Chris Perry isn't it? So far has had no idea.

Targett off target.

Hopefully this saga doesnt make us lose sight of the fact we still need at least another CB. Club need to make a statement. Worries me it is on the BBc

We better prepare for his departure. Hopefully we can find a replacment before close of window and not just Januzai on loan in return.

I agree he can be wasteful. But I felt Pelle was a creative influence throughout and could easily have scored and assisted today. Lots of free chances in the box from us which suggests Everton got lucky more than anything in my opinion. Before the first goal we were all over them.

There are positives in this game. JRod looks lively, Pelle was super (apart from finishing) and we are dynamic all over the pitch coming forwards. Romeu made a promising start. But midfield mix was all wrong in the first half and the defence has let everyone down. It's not their fault, we've simply not strengthened enough there.. yet.

Totally random. Just trying to be clever and ended up looking stupid.