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It seems it's official http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34872166

Wouldn't a minutes silence be more appropriate?

Agree I have problem with military action but if the western nations don't get it right they risk causing more problems than they solve. I saw this on the BBC Raqqa activists criticise 'ineffective' air strikes on IS http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34855514 Ayman (not his real name) says the air strikes by France and other members of the US-led coalition against IS have intensified in the past three days, with about 15 a day targeting the group's positions. But for Ayman, the coalition air strikes have not been very successful and he believes that more are needed to combat IS. He also alleges that Russian and Syrian government air strikes on Raqqa have not been targeting the extremist group. "All their attacks have been against civilians," he says. "They have caused a lot of massacres." "The Russian bombing in western Raqqa - which they claimed was against IS - was far away from any IS locations," he adds. Russia has strongly denied causing civilians deaths, describing such reports as "information warfare" designed to discredit its operations in Syria.

Don't American kids with an interest in soccer follow the MLS? I can understand them knowing nothing about the PL but I would have thought they'd follow the MLS is it not on TV over there?

TBF I can't imagine many football league club chairman anywhere doing that. Fair play to the bloke.

Humanity certainly has a knack of thinking in the short term it seems. Nobody seemed to give much thought on the over use of antibiotics on livestock (and humans to be fair) it would appear.

Scary **** that might just be a lot more dangerous to humanity the climate change or the war on terror The world is on the cusp of a "post-antibiotic era", scientists have warned after finding bacteria resistant to drugs used when all other treatments have failed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34857015

He just signed a new four year contract in May so he is going to be at saints for a while yet injured or not.

Not nearly as much of a struggle as it's been for you though....

New report highlights ‘sharp rise’ in anti-Muslim attacks and ‘environment of hate’ in Britain http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/new-report-highlights-sharp-rise-in-anti-muslim-attacks-and-environment-of-hate-in-britain-a6739596.html Some of this needs to be taking with a pinch of salt the Tell MAMA stats for example have been questioned in the past (mostly because they don't have a definition for a Muslim attack)

I'm pretty sure no one is arguing Islamic Militants have nothing to do with Islam....

Certainly but I'm assuming Sourmash wasn't advocating deporting all the British people from Britain...

That's quite a list and would include Ireland, Spain and the USA and as most of the Paris attackers came from France and Belgium those two countries a well I guess. Actually I'm all for the last one as it would really bugger up spurs defence.

Getting them to all buy memberships.....

Iran seeks to join international coalition battling militants http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/war-with-isis-iran-seeks-to-join-international-coalition-battling-militants-as-part-of-significant-10461307.html

I was inspired to have a look at what weapons the UK police have access to. Apparently there is no set standard each regional force makes their own choices with regards to what weapons to issue but looking at the list UK police have access to some pretty good weapons mostly German and Austrian make including weapons used by European armies like the G36 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom I'd hazard a guess that the training firearms officers have would help to overcome any perceived inequalities between weaponry against opponents with less training and likely hoped up to boot. I reckon you have a point about response times. As you say most likely the first people on the scene will be the local beat/traffic officer. Following the logic of giving them the tools for the job we would have to move to arm all UK police as they are most likely to be first on the scene. It's worth noting that French police are armed as a matter of course but they couldn't prevent the attack in Paris. The cold hard truth is that an attack like Paris most of the damage was done in the first few minutes before police arrived regardless of weapons available an instance like this authorities can only really react after the fact. I'm still not sure I'd like to see all British police armed as standard (just looking at the what's wrong with America thread shows up some of the pitfalls) I'd certainly have no problem with increasing specialist firearm teams around the UK if police forces felt they need to.

Really? I'm not sure how else to interrupt using worldwide terrorism as a yardstick to judge a vast number of Muslims can be interpreted...though I concede I should have said vast number not all.

Apparently all those HK MP5s are semi automatic not the full auto version.

You think wide spread terrorism is a yardstick to judge the vast number of Muslims seems pretty clear to me. Clearly I should have said vast number instead of all.

Well I cant see us doing it for free. I guess the coaching will be charged for how much of a money spinner that is will be, I guess comes down to numbers. I suppose the other advantage will be firsts dibs on talented US youngsters.

Oooh carefully now that sounds suspiciously like you're labeling all Muslims the same.....which of course no one has done on this thread

I'm two minds about these things on the one hand was a country we need to take these things seriously but as I said earlier in the thread I really don't like the idea of us giving up our British civil liberties. If we start arming British police with automatic weapons along with other measures being mooted it feels like we are letting the extremists win. For me it's not as black and white a situation as some want to make it.

LOL The game was held at the Istanbul Basaksehir stadium which was a 17,000 sell out against Greece (the saints v pompey of international relations) total population of Turkey est. 77,695,904. How does 15,000 Turkish fans booing (if they all booed) back up that statement in anyway. Distasteful as it is (but we've all seen people do ****y things at football games) it's hardly a yardstick with which to judge a "vast number"

So now all these crappy internationals are over now did Saints get away injury free? I know about VVD (I watched the game) but he only came off as a precaution against wales and should be fine. Did the rest of the squad making it through unscathed?