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I'm intrigued how you think this works. Do you seriously think judges are taken aside at the judicial college and told they must go tough on fascists? And that appeal judges are ordered not to interfere with OTT sentences? Is that how this works in your opinion? You've made something up to suit your narrative. Pity you haven't got the minerals to do admit that.

Of the points made, I've commented only on the wholly unsupporrted allegation that Judges are politicised. The person making that allegation simply needs to evidence the claim or acknowledge they made it up. It's very simple. Re the rest, I keep telling you that I'm not debating with you, and I haven't, and won't. I'll acknowledge you no further.

I'm not having that debate - I've seen the squabble up there ^^^ and have no interest in joining in. If you could please post up your evidence that Judges (not other parts of the justice system, just the Judges themselves) are politicised, that'd be good though. Alternatively, you could just acknowledge that you made it up to suit your narrative.

Ha!! FFS, I'm not making any claims! Your man has said judges are politicised - that's for him to prove. I don't have to prove a negative.

It's very simple. Judges aren't politicised. That's the only point I've made to you.

Yep. The politics of perceived grievance, amplified by the echo chambers of SM. Trying to debate it is like trying to train a deaf and dumb dog. Absolutely fucking pointless.

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Credit to you for wasting your time with him, but why I'm not sure. When the concept of context is lost, you've lost all hope.

You base your view on perception. I'll base mine on reality.

Judges are not politicised, that's nonsense. Politics may find their way into sentencing guidelines, and before that policing and policy, but Judges merely operate within the parameters laid out. As has been said, the appeal courts are there if the Judge gets it wrong at first instance.

A multi season breach of that scale should have a sanction that bites for multi seasons. They'd still stay up with a 40 point deduction, possibly 50. That wouldn't give justice. I'd drop them down the leagues.

Club/manager, very different scenarios for me. I've been in businesses when the person at the top is serving out notice. Everyone knows they're going, they know they're going, respect deteriorates, the relationship just isn't the same, and the workers are thinking ahead to who's coming in next. It never goes well, and it'll be no better for footballers. I just can't see it working, and I can't help but think that knowing he'd probably be on his way has impacted our season already.

He couldn't realistically carry on pending an appeal if he and the players know he'll be going anyway. Our contingency will be Lallana joining the rest of the first team coaching team.

That's tempting, but the uncertainty over him wouldn't have helped us this season, and do we really want more of it.

That's because none of their offences were committed from behind a tree. They're small time.