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Leavitt - the war will be over when Iran surrender, whether they say it or not! That's the off ramp, a US retreat dressed up as Iranian surrender. Fecking dinlos.

In other news, an Ozzie take on Donny's latest ramblings: "He's done. He is absolutely fucking done. This peanut brained tangerine testicle just called CBS News FROM HIS GOLF CLUB in Doral, Florida, and said the war with Iran is "very complete, pretty much." Very complete. Pretty much. From the golf course. While eight Americans are dead. Eight families just got the worst phone call of their lives and this fat fraud is sitting in a golf cart telling a reporter it's all wrapped up. Like he's talking about a fucking renovation on one of his bankrupt hotels. You know what his own Department of Defense posted on the SAME DAY? "We have Only Just Begun to Fight" and "no mercy." The Commander in Chief says very complete. His own Pentagon says only just begun. That's not mixed messaging. That's a man who has completely lost control of the situation and is making shit up from a sun lounger while the adults keep dropping bombs. And you know who else thinks "very complete" is horseshit? Benjamin fucking Netanyahu. Two days ago Bibi was promising "many surprises" for the next phase. Israel's army chief said the war will "likely continue for a long time." Eighty one percent of Israelis support the strikes. Sixty three percent want it to continue until the regime falls. They're pushing for early elections so Netanyahu can ride this war to victory. Der Spiegel called it "a dream for Netanyahu that became true." Very complete? Netanyahu hasn't even gotten to the good bit yet, you absolute muppet. He's got regime change on the menu and an election to win. He doesn't give a flying fuck about Donald Trump's feelings. Trump is looking for the exit and Netanyahu is ordering another round. And here's the kicker. Israel's defence minister admitted they were already planning to strike Iran in mid-2026 and that Netanyahu set the goal of assassinating Khamenei back in November 2025. You didn't start this war, Donald. You got talked into it by a bloke who's been playing people since before you figured out how to bankrupt a casino. And now you're standing in a global fucking inferno wondering why it's hot. Let me tell you what "very complete" looks like in the real world. Brent crude spiked to $119.50 a barrel Monday morning. Then it cratered roughly 30% after Trump's CBS interview. The market heard "very complete" and translated it to "this bloke is shitting himself and looking for the exit." They literally front-ran his cowardice in real time. But even after that 30% drop, oil is STILL up 50% since this genius started bombing Iran. The damage is done. You can't un-fuck an economy with a phone call from a golf club. The Strait of Hormuz is shut. Saudi Aramco is cutting production. US gas heading to four bucks a gallon. The Nikkei dropped 5%. South Korea's KOSPI dropped 6%. Analysts warning about 1970s stagflation. Eight Americans dead. Eleven Reaper drones shot down. First 100 hours cost $3.7 billion. Fifty thousand troops deployed. CENTCOM planning for operations through September. And his big move? He has "someone in mind" to lead Iran. Someone in mind. For a country of 88 million people. A civilization that's existed for 5,000 years. Like he's picking a shift manager for a fucking Arby's. This is who Donald Trump is. This is what he does. Every single time. He breaks everything he touches, declares victory from the wreckage, and leaves someone else to clean it up. Except this time Netanyahu won't let him leave. The Pentagon won't let him leave. The oil markets won't let him leave. Reality won't let him leave. The war is very complete. The economy is very complete. His presidency is very complete. He's right about one thing. Something is definitely fucking complete".

Farmer is correct. You talk as if it's our oil and gas. It isn't, and we can't have energy security with energy we don't own.

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We'll get all that for sure, but his press conferences tend to be to deliver some loopy policy.

So what do we think Donny will have to say for himself in his press conference tonight? Something that'll scare the shit out of the markets no doubt.

I'm not sure of your point. We don't own the oil and gas, and don't get priority acces. We buy it on the open market, at market prices. Thank Maggie for that.

I'm not sure it's "our"oil and gas. We have to buy on the open market, even if it comes from our back yard. Norway had the sense to keep hold of theirs.

Stop being so literal. The point is that allowing someone to use your runway to commit an illegal act makes you culpable, but you know that. And you've got to be pretty daft to believe that Netanyahu is the saviour of the middle East, that Donny is the saviour of the world, and that Iran are so anti Israel that they'd be willing to see their entire nation and people wiped out.

It was an analogy that people with a Trump esque moral compass wouldn't understand.

That's a right mixture of sense and stupid. Agreed re article 5. I'm not sure of your point re 4, 6 and Trump because you went off at a stupid tangent and didn't explain. 6, arguably, means the bases are outside of scope as when NATO became a thing, Cyprus was geographically not in Europe but Turkey coming into NATO probably makes that a moot point. Article 4 may help there though. Re your Trump/Starmer point (rent boy hard on FFS, you're not 12). I think the issue on the back of Trump's latest dig at Starmer isn't about us not helping others, it's about Trump storing up another resentment and having an excuse not to give us the benefit of any doubt.

Happy with that line up, although I'd have played Stephens - seems little point playing the rest of your preferred back 4 but leaving one man out. They've put a decent side out today though, but I reckon we'll give them a good game.

The faux outrage is because it's brown people on horses. It's nothing more complicated than that.

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The only thing these blokes were "draped in" was brown skin. Let's have a direct and relevant comparison - if they were just two white blokes on horses, nobody would give a monkeys.