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Agree with that, and more to the point, what happened with the tournament after we were excluded had nothing to do with us. Boro being reinstated wasn't our punishment, us being excluded was (plus the points).

They sort of covered it by saying that the effect of their decision, including the finding that we'd cheated in our tie against Boro, was that they were reinstated. I think they could and should have squared it off better than they did.

It's subjective. A plane that carried passengers across the Atlantic in a few hours, back then, was revolutionary imo. Some may argue evolutionary. Re space ex, whilst getting into low orbit space, in rockets that can be used again is impressive, I'm not sure that 60 years after man apparently landed in the moon, such an advance is any more revolutionary than concorde was way back then. Each to their own, but I don't sit here wowed by what Musk has done.

Engineering progress = engineering progress. Space travel industry = space travel industry. 2 different things poppet. Those of us who understand that, understand it, and can also distinguish between a developing prospect and something that's revolutionised an industry. Fwiw, I see the scope - I was an early investor in space ex pre float via SMT.

FFS, ever decreasing circles. Once there's open and widely available space travel, we'll have a revolution. Until then, let's admire the progress.

I bet to differ...but feel free to begin a science/engineering/tech thread if a debate about it excites you.

Sigh. You're hard of reading I have acknowledged the tech advances. What I have disputed is the suggestion that they've revolutionised space travel, and that's because they haven't. Yet.

Back to earth... borrowing up a fifth year on year. Coupled with higher borrowing costs, it's not ideal. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c68049m18435o

We'll agree to differ...your question confirms that you're focusing on the tech developments (which I've acknowledged) not the "revolutionised space travel" point. When space travel becomes widely available, it's been revolutionised. Until then, tech is progressing, and a future revolution becomes a possibility. Concorde revolutionised transatlantic travel, and transported thousands of punters. Taking a select few into low orbit space, is a million miles from a revolution. I'll leave it here as this nothing to do with the thread, ie this country.

I think it's more that the purpose of the cheating was to help us get to the PL, not that promotion to the PL is the prize from this league.

Pretty much my take on it. I've said 8-12 games, but arrived at differently. I think we could just about live with 8 and install a caretaker, but 12 is more testing. I agree re the whining which, for me, devalues the remorse.

Turning the radio on and being greeted by a favourite tune.

All very lovely, but show me where space travel, as an industry, has been "revolutionised". I've been clear that technical advances are a different thing, and sure there's been achievements in that respect, but space travel has not been opened up, let alone "revolutionised", to suggest it has been is hyperbole.

If (inevitably) Tonda is likely to be banned for any amount of time, sounding out a new manager is the right thing to do.

If you're talking revolutionary tech, that's different to revolutionising space for travel, which they haven't revolutionised.