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I'm not sure itst that radical - go and watch a player, conclude that he's not good enough for club a, but could do a job at club b, and/or may become good enough for club a after a season or two at the other club. Seems an efficient way of doing it.

Sounds like he had a big role here, leading the scouting network, and was the "sporting director" whatever that was. He thanked the first team assistant coach, and you'd imagine that not thanking Tonda was deliberate...the comment about not getting the promotion we deserved must have been aimed at him. Anyways, he's gone, and hopefully it's not too unstable behind the scenes.

Pretty much this. My head rules, and still tells me that his position is untenable, although my heart will take over next season if he's still in charge.

Indeed! We did the Yorkshire dales and Moors last year. Picked up a few scars. We'd only do Devon in the autumn or spring when it's less mental. Can't be doing crowded lanes, or actually anywhere crowded.

Ha!! We avoid the crowded touristy places. Little sites in the countryside are where it's at.

Spotify threw that at me earlier today. Splendid 😊.

Camping in a tent, cooking all out meals, no, but we've got a campervan and love it. King size bed, central heating, bathroom, flushing toilet, shower, electric, proper fridge, and the ability to go wherever we want. We only stay on sites with proper facilities and somewhere walkable to eat. We ate out yesterday, today we barbequed, tomorrow, who knows. Done properly it's decent.

Yep, we're doing a road trip in Belgium. The Brits stand out a mile everywhere we go - fat and either pale or orange. The locals are nearly all in great nick.

I think that's the case.

I think it's gone quiet because Tonda is in the middle of an internal disciplinary process, and the club are saying nothing until that plays out. If he had our backing, the club would have said so.

Yes, but, he/we failed to grasp the distinction between the intent to gain an advantage and getting one, and having maintained that no real harm was done, the panel viewed the club’s defence as an attempt to downplay a "top-down" operation, ultimately leading to our playoff expulsion. Absolute cock up all around.

Relating that to our case, when McLaren stole Ferraris data to attempt to get an advantage, they had Hamilton and Alonso (the reigning world champion) as their drivers. Just having the best drivers/players wasn't enough for them, they felt the need to spy to gain a sporting advantage. The panel referenced the McLaren case for good reason.

That's like saying you can't grade stealing. You walk into a jewellery shop and instinctively nick a silver ring, it's stealing. You walk in and nick all the diamond rings and out of the window, in a planned theft, it's stealing. Both stealing, but different grades, and get a different penalty. This advantage gained point is nonsense. The panel were spot on when they said "sporting advantage is different from sporting success". They ruled that an "advantage" is gained the second a club compromises an opponent's privacy with the intent to cheat—regardless of whether they actually go on to win, lose, or play poorly on match day. In truth, who knows what our kid saw. Whilst Tonda testifies that it was nothing , his credibility was shot by that point so the panel wouldn't have believed anything he said. Regardless, the decision was that we were seeking an advantage to help us sew up the tie and get to Wembley for the big one. That, on any objective assessment, is unarguable.

I don't read your posts as discussion. You have this view that we've been really hard done by, have suffered the mother of stitch up, and only a real fan would agree with that. That's not discussion, it's an entitled Gen Z attitude which boils my piss.

Tis the way of the world CB; no accountability, always someone else's fault, always someone to blame, it wasn't that bad, whataboutery, etc.