egg

That's a completely different point. Odd/entitled behaviour from some individuals doesn't mean people with gender dysphoria are mentally ill. Don't get me wrong, I struggle with understanding how people can't identify with their gender, but when actual medics and medical organisations say it's not a mental illness, I'm not sure why blokes on a football forum think that their opinion is the one that matters.

The mind boggles. I'll stick with the WHO, NHS etc on this, bit the suggestion that people must be mentally ill if they feel a disconnect with their gender feels about as right as saying that gay people are mentally ill.

I cba to read the above, but is it really being suggested that they think they know better than the who and the NHS and suggesting that gendee dysphoria/trans is a mental illness?

She is a cock. Actually, can a woman be a cock? How about a gender neutral person?

You can't know. There was that situation at a local Starbucks where it all kicked off because a customer identified the server as the gender they visualised rather than what the person wanted to be identified as. Madness that the punter was expected to know.

My only issue is how it's possible to describe an individual in the plural. It feels very odd that an individual can identify in that way.

Loose

Fine line is that. My brother in law came out as bi years ago, and has gone gender neutral. My missus regards him as her "brother" because he is and always has been. My kids call him "uncle" because he is and always has been. Can he decide that he's no longer a "brother" or an "uncle" and expect others to toe the line? It's not a rhetorical question by the way, he doesn't seem to know what he's to be called by his family, so how the feck are we supposed to know?!

Reconnaissance

Boy

Nowt wrong with them DM's. She's a good lass.

Agree with both. My point was to set SoG's comments re labour to one side, and address what he said about the Tories. He was correct in what he said about the Tories, and although I have reservations about a Labour government under Starmer, we need a change sharpish.

Putting aside what he says about Labour, don't you agree with what he said about the Tories?

Maniac

Bastard

Yep, but to be fair, who else did he have who could do it? Cleverly was safe but a bit wet, but probably would be ok at the home office. This just highlights how shit this crop of Tory MPs are.

Indeed!

Unless there's going to be a massive reshuffle, it looks that way. He'd do wanders for our relationship with the EU!

Solo

I'm not calling for sackings from last week. If you are, then say who, and why. If you don't think it's anyone, then it seems that you're arguing with yourself again.

Depends who you're suggesting is at fault. If nobody, then that's your answer.

Of course it won't be, but it'll hit Biden, the EU leaders who've yet to side with France and Belgium, and other Western leaders. There were other massive protests yesterday too. The point is being made, despite some daft politicians and violent counter protesters best efforts.

Lots of things weren't her fault. Yesterday was.

Some see what they want to. It's obvious to anyone objective that all but a tiny minority of the pro Palestine protestors came to protest peacefully and respectfully, and did, but that a great many more of the counter protestors came to cause to trouble, and did. The police have only deemed 3 of the l pro Palestine placards illegal. 3, out of 300,000. I spotted scores of counter protestors kicking off and inciting violence. Braverman whipped up the counter protesters and needs to pay the price.

Malt