benjii

Celtic would be bloody expensive! It's not like Saints and Celtic will ever be in competition with each other either. (I am not, in any way, subscribing to the veracity of this rumour)

Lowe built it himself.

Gates fell by 1,563,000% under Lowe and we averaged 0.001357 points. Under Crouch our avergae attendance was 499,222. Of course there's no evidence in support of this but it is fact. I go on gut feel. If I am later shown to be talking nonsense I will just ignore these figures and plough on regardless with my weird, obsessive hobby.

Not trying to start an argument - just for a laugh in case anyone's missing the ruddy cheeked old bounder. On Steve Wigley: "No, but I believe that Steve Wigley - who is back, incidentally, as director of youth football - could have done it if people, the board and the supporters, had had a greater degree of belief in him." The old "blame the fans" - a classic tactic, mercilessly employed with the rapier precision of the preening matador. On Glenn Hoddle: "Everyone makes mistakes; the art is to learn from them" Rupert, the artless high priest of irony. On the grounds for employ of the gentle art of persuasion: "Harry's made it quite clear that if we remain in the Premier League, he's keen to stay. He is less keen to stay here if we don't." On stability: "Having Harry at the helm next season will add the stability that we needed so badly last year" On mixed metaphor: "Having spent ten years building it up, I have no regrets about putting my head in the lion's jaws and coming back. I just happen to be the chairman when the ship, which was holed below the waterline when I arrived, finally sank." Let's hope the lion doesn't drown. On bare-faced nonsense: "I bear no grudges"

I would pick: ------------------KD------------------ James---Perry----Saieaiaeijs------Skacel BWP---Schneiderlin----Euell------Surman ----------McG---------Saga------------

Jesus.... what does the guy have to do? He was one of our best performers yesterday in all respects: effort and output.

Not too sure about this actually!

But if they're sold with a clear health warning ie. "the club today offers fans the chance to help it survive the season financially. The cut-price tickets are sold on the understanding that there is material doubt over the ability of the group to survive this season" I don't think there would be a problem. Yes, wrongful trading (ie trading whilst knowingly insolvent) is unlawful but then we shouldn't be selling tickets for any home games this season on that basis and, as we know, the football club aint insolvent . Add to this the fact that any reborn professional guise of SFC will undoubtedly honour the season tickets and you have little cause for concern.

I think that's harsh. He posed much more of an attacking threat than Lallana managed in the previous 70 minutes and at two goals behind, frankly I couldn't care less if he didn't track back much.

Can't be arsed to trawl the archive... Was the reason given by the club for not offering next year's ST for sale that there was uncertainty over our league status or our financial status? I recall it was due to the parlous league position. Presumably even our board realised there would have to be a significant dicsount if we got relegated and so it just wasn't feasible to sell them at the current time. Now, if we really were only £100,000 over our agreed borrowing, could we not have sold season tickets at a knock-down £200 now to try to finance the club until the end of the season? Sure, it compromises potential income for next year if we do stay up, but frankly right now - so what?! People might say it is imoral to sell them when the ongoing existence of the club is in jeopardy but if they came with a massive "health warning" attached to that effect it would then be up to the punters to make a reasoned choice. In any event - a new owner would still honour them. I reckon we would get at least 8,000 sales at that price, probably over 10,000 in fact. That's £2,000,000. I find it odd that the board didn't try this.

That's why we have different threads. HTH

Was thinking about that the other day - I can't believe how easily the media let that go.

Post of the year!

Seriously though, the Wellington Arms on Park Road is class and the one down by the church near Millbrook Road (I forget its name now for some reason?!) is good too. EDIT: Pretty sure that's the Waterloo - quiet but pleasant. The Osbourne is ok. Most of the ones on Shirley Road are full of dullards. The Wellie is defo the best.

What they will know is that an average level of success in the Championship brings crowds in the 20,000s, that utter dross in the Championship brings crowds of circa 15k, which is perfectly respectable, and that if we get back in the Prem (Ha!) we would sell out every week. Our support is quite good. A "hardcore" of 15,000 is quite good. It's more than quite a few teams in the Premier League. Fact.

Even if one accepts we needed a cheaper manager (which I don't) - why on earth appoint Poortvliet? Can you honestly say that any person in the world, other than Lowe, would make such a mental decision? If we needed a manager to do the job for peanuts there were better options than that. Clearly we needed to try and reduce wages and take some difficult decisions, but to trot out the turgid "no choice" nonsense again just illustrates timid thinking.

Wotte messed up big time. The right side was only ever going to work if we retained the lion's share of possession and dictated the game. That was never going to happen with the two "wide" players spending most of their time in and around the centre circle and the team set-up to hit Euell at evrry opportunity. He should have admitted he'd messed up at half-time, taken solace from the fact we weren't behind and re-jigged things then. Lallana was truly awful and should have been taken off without a doubt. Thomson was too scared of making a mistake to go forward. We offered absolutely NOTHING down the right all match. We should have grasped the nettle and gone for an attacking system with real width. If we get crosses into the box from decent wide positions we will score goals with Saga, Euell and McG in the box.

Great post.

Probably not Tony Hart. Regards Ben

"Assistant referees"

I'm aware of that, but I just can't believe the FA rules are that easy to circumvent. I'm sure they will exercise some sort of discretionary powers.

Ok, but apart from "smug" you seem to have ignored the rest of the post. You can't say you're right or vindicated yet. Time will tell. Fingers crossed.

Er... when we start next season on minus 30 points in League 1 it may well be a terrible, catastrophic thing... bit early to start getting smug.

Whether it was or wasn't, it was in any event insignificant compared to the misguided actions of the management.

Doesn't today's expected attendance completely give lie to that final paragraph?