Raging Bull

Best understanding of available evidence? So nothing concrete then? And if there was a big bang, who created those parts for the big bang??? You know full well why I disagree with you. Have you not been paying attention? But in case you haven’t, it’s the same creator that would’ve made the parts for your Big Bang! Please tell me though, when did I say there was a pre ordained path?

You don’t half talk out of your hair 1. When have I said there’s a Pre ordained path? Free will means you choose! Anyway what exactly do you think happened for us to be hear?

You mean free will, lovingly given to us by a divine creator?

I don't believe this in the slightest, in fact I'd say you're just a pie seller with a duck porn fetish. Where's the full, detailed evidence you've even been to uni?

Happy new year everyone :lol:

So you're not open minded in the slightest then and simply slot in with the MLG's of the world

Yeah I do find it strange, I'm not denying that and I have no idea why they aren't mentioned. And Israel are mentioned so often and in the way they are because they're his people Isaiah 49:15-16 Which is partly why everything centres around Israel today. The muslim countries surrounding them know this and hate them because of it.

Indeed it is, and I should've done so but I can't edit my posts. That was just 1 of many things I've come across in the past when I've had questions of my own

Well this is something you'd need to look into yourself, rather than from me then. May I suggest you head over to YouTube and search for the following pastors/people: 1. Jack Hibbs 2. Barry Stragner 3. Amir Tsarfati (ex Major of the Israel army) They will give you a better understanding of it than I ever will.

Fair point, my apologise. It's just when you call someone insane, you don't really expect them to listen with an open mind.

Ok, whatever.

Why?

Well this is true, but best guesses are that 1 day they won't be all that.

1. OK, it's up to you (as I've always said) whether or not you believe those names are traslations for the names they're known by today, whatever. Prophecy is to give warning of future events, not ultimate details. Because lets face it, with the way you are, even if it did mention VP then you'd be calling BS because it didn't name the anti aircraft weapons used or what side the soldiers dress. 2. Why do you want to know this?

After years of being an utter helmet (violence, all or nothing living etc, hence the name) a few things happened in my personal life that changed my view on things a few years ago. When I looked into the word of God (especially prophecy) and married it up to world events it was clear that it's real and should be taken seriously. I'm also 1 of those guys that soaks in as much info as possible when their interested, but bugger all when not interested. Hence this sticks. **puts on tin hat ready for the insults from the atheists**

Actually, it does mention Russia & Turkey. But I didn't think for a second you'd get it... Anyway, here's a break down for you along with a quick intro, enjoy Tubal and Meshech are mentioned together in Ezekiel 38:2. They were the 5th and 6th sons of Japheth, the son of Noah (Genesis 10:2). Some believe these people intermarried and became known as Magog, the dominant tribe. There are two main theories for their location: (1) RUSSIA and (2) TURKEY. Whichever it is does not change the overall picture as both are identified by the other names in Ezekiel. (1) Regarding Meshech and Tubal, some assign a Russian identification, connecting these 2 nations with the modern Russian cities of Moscow and Tobolsk. Meshech - Moscow, and Tubal - Tobolsk. The first view became well known through the Scofield Study Bible: “That the primary reference is to the Northern powers headed by Russia, all agree. The reference to Meshech and Tubal (Moscow and Tobolsk) is a clear mark of identification.” Thus the name Moscow derives from the tribal name Meshech, and Tobolsk, the name of the principal state, from Tubal. This view is partly based on the similarity of sound in these names and their close proximity to Rosh (Russia). If this is so, the names Meshech and Tubal, point directly to Russia, being identified with Moscow, the capital of modern Russia, and Tobolsk in Asiatic Russia. Modern Tobolsk was founded in 1587 in western Siberia, and from there the Cossacks rode eastward to open up all of Siberia to Russian domination. Meshech and Tubal would then be names standing for Russia in Europe and Asia.

That’s because only 2% of churches even discuss prophecy or end times because it freaks people out and they’re worried about numbers. If the Christians you know would disagree with things like prophecy then I’d suggest they’re ignoring 28% of the bible.

The Russians also have the bible but that’s not stopping them from fulfilling the prophecy is it...

Egg, people will see this as nuts, but it isn’t. It’s simply mans self righteousness pride that puts himself on top of every pile. It’s funny though, so many people on their death beds give their hearts to God. You’ve gotta ask yourself why that is. It’s because at the end of it all when all else is failing, we still believe in God. When I get a chance I’ll post some really good videos on current prophecies. I’m sure you’ll enjoy watching it

MLG there is absolutely no point in debating with you, but just so you’re absolutely clear 1. I understand the bible and the theology behind it all very well 2. You couldn’t care less, and that’s fine Anyway, I’m about to miss a deadline if I’m not careful

So you’re saying that’s not right? Seriously? That Israel wasn’t a nation before 1948 but was after 1948? It was formed on the 14th may 1948. Are you also saying Israel isn’t now the 8th richest country in the world? But if you don’t understand that then you’d better step out of the room because simple facts are too much for you

It’s up to you what you think of me, I’m not fussed. But 28% of the bible is dedicated to prophecy, so predicting things...

And just so you atheists can freak out before bed time, here’s the word in more detail https://www.factsaboutisrael.uk/israel-fig-tree/?cn-reloaded=1 Now suck it up and repent

Ezekiel 20-41:42 41. With a pleasing savor I shall accept you when I take you out of the nations, and I shall gather you from the lands in which you were scattered, and I shall be hallowed through you before the eyes of the nations. 42. And you will know that I am the Lord when I bring you to the land of Israel, to the land that I lifted My hand to give to your forefathers. And as if by magic, Israel became a nation again in 1948 And yes, I’m aware it’s from last century before you get all pedantic on me. But it’s a highly significant 1. As for this century, it was predicted that Israel will flourish. They’re now the 8th richest country in the world and 5th largest seller of military technology. The fig tree is blooming, just as Jesus predicted. This is the parable of the fig tree found in Matthew

Not trying to be Nostradamus, you don’t believe it and that’s fine.