John B

Yes of course we can talk but we cannot negoiate and that takes time

Only a person with little or no economics understanding would be clasping at straws like you most economists think that the day after the referendum was probably the single worst event in British postwar history but life does go on and the country will be poor both economically and poorer from BREXIT as we get involved in trade deals with the rest of the world which will take some time to come in to operation.

Can someone point me to that part of our great unwritten Constitution that says if you lose a vote you must immediately agree with those who won it? Cast your mind back to the Scottish independence referendum. 55-45. A defeat for the YES campaign. Did the Nationalists overnight go ‘oh well, hey ho, we’re all Unionists now’? No. They accepted they lost the vote but declared that the fight for the cause they believe in goes on. The way they fought that fight contributed towards their success in the subsequent general election. Now the mess of the EU referendum means they may yet reach their goal, even more quickly than they imagined when that referendum was lost. After New Labour did Labour’s Bennites put their hands up and say ‘sod it, might as well give up now’? If so, how the hell did Jeremy Corbyn become leader? And now that he is, have all those who see he cannot lead given up on the idea that he must be replaced? Far from it. Similarly, did Nigel Farage, when he was in the small minority dismissed by David Cameron as fruitcakes, racists and loonies, vanish amid his succession of crushing electoral defeats? No. He kept on keeping on, until one day, alas, he won. The lesson of all political history is you keep fighting for what you believe in. So to all those who think the UK has made a decision of especially bad and dangerous proportions in voting to leave the EU – and they now include plenty who voted Leave – I say ‘do not give up the fight to make sure we are spared the consequences.’

The government need to stimulate the economy reduce VAT would be good perhaps Invest in infrastructure Some suggestions I saw Sewers are falling apart in most areas of the country, water piping systems need replacing in 50% of the country. At least 50% of the schools are in need of significant repair. Every hospital should be refurbished, equipped with the latest medical equipment, brought into the 21st century. All major ports should be updated with modern container facilities. All rivers and waterways should be reinforced and dredged to reduce the possibilities of future flooding. All bridges and flyovers should be checked and replaced if weak, or thought to be suspect within the next 10 years. Certain dilapidated council estates could be vacated, demolished and sustainable housing built as low cost. Massive tree planting programs on crown, and public land would help clean up the environment, as well as reduce the propensity for flooding in some areas. Bring back the English Oak around the country. Most public street light are archaic energy consuming, remove and replace them with high efficiency lighting, reducing the need for more power generation plants. Multiple publically owned wind turbine projects using 'made in UK' technology and materials, might minimise the need for a Hinkley Point C. Make work projects clearing up moors and bogs around the country, as well as environmentally polluted areas. Massive publically owned fruit tree planting to help the clean up the environment as well as reduce the need to import fruit from EU. Anything agricultural which would reduce having to import food into the UK.

thanks for that I agree with you it covers it for me too but then I saw this comment in my local paper and thought the Tories are still attacking the poor and disadvantaged I am far from poor and disadvantaged but a few million are and they probably feel frustrated about their day to day existence Tory Councillor invoked new Prime Minister Theresa May and her belief in "national conservatism" saying it was for the council to promote "self reliance" not do everything but unfortunately loads of people cannot do self reliance without some kind of help which is now being cut. The opposition were suggesting for not reducing funding to family charity Homestart by 50 per cent, keeping £17,000 for universal services for young people and not removing a childminder development post (£23,000). To fund these changes it was hoped the council would consider a move towards becoming a "paper-light" administration, saving £20,000, postponing the residents survey (£30,000) and putting the Councils newsletter online (£20,000). But lets wait and see what happens I think May should be given every opportunity to put into reality what she has said because lets face it there is nothing else remotely on offer from the the other lot.

As a matter of interest what are you looking for in a Political party I am genuinely interested I agree that what May has said so far is good but it is very similar to what Miliband was saying between 2012 and 2015

14 July 2016 Following recent reports about his health and now that he has spoken fully to his family, friends and team-mates, Hampshire Cricket can confirm that after a brief period of feeling unwell, a specialist has determined that Michael Carberry has a tumour that is cancerous. Further tests will be undertaken before the relevant treatment commences. He is grateful for the messages of support that he has received and hopes that he can focus on his treatment whilst the privacy of those close to him is respected. Michael has been part of the Hampshire Cricket family for 10 years and on behalf of everyone at and associated with the Club, I would like to send him and his family our very best wishes at this very difficult time. ‘Carbs’ has taken on and beaten serious illness before and we will be doing all we can to make sure he does the same again this time. Get Well Soon Carbs

It just seems ****ing stupid to leave the biggest single market in the world and start working out how to trade and get inward investment virtually from scratch. Thousands of people are going to lose out during the process the country is a laughing stock world wide and half the country think the other half of the country which includes you are stupid and we still have no idea what OUT really means. There is of course an upside Osborne and Cameron who have tanked the economy are out Austerity is dead the deficit and debt are rising but will Hammond be bold by reducing VAT and invest in infrastructure projects like Osborne should have done only time will tell

I dont think you understand to trade you need investment without access to the single market Foreign companies are unlikely to invest in the UK which is key to our future prosperity Most Asian and North American Companies are here to trade with Europe. We dont have many British Companies I cannot see Toyota Nissan and Honda trading with Asia or the US as they have more efficient factories elsewhere

If you think Cameron was a Pinko you are deluded he has run the most right wing government for decades Theresa May promised to fight “burning injustice” in British society, govern for the poor and marginalised, and create a union “between all of our citizens” what do you think about that

Me too Mr Garrett but I am still anti Tory most of Tory administrations have been cruel to large sections of the electorate in the last 40 years Lets hope Mrs May can rebuild the country after the shambles of Cameron and Osborne with their austerity agenda which in Swindon has led to the closure of 11 of the 14 public libraries.

I dont think Corbyn is electable in a GE what do others think

Yes I agree with you austerity is not a good thing and counter productive but the UK did the same thing and got re-elected but now that BREXIT has happened the Tories are possibly anti austerity. I think it is slightly over the top to say the EU is not a great Union despite loaning the Greeks billions of Euros to try to fix a completely ****ed economy as revelations that previous data on government debt levels and deficits had been undercounted by the Greek governments as you say it could have been done in a better way

Yes you should be worried by unemployment Wes 10000s may lose their jobs in the UK in the next few months if the economy goes into recession. However Portugal have a hard time because of the Global Banking crisis they are now starting to grow again but have gained significantly since they went into the EU with lots of investment for jobs . I saw this comment on the Internet what do you think about it seems factually correct to me Britain voted to leave the EU... Technically correct - at least the referendum was in favour of leaving the EU. Britain, however, has not yet DECIDED to leave the EU yet Both sides used lies. The country is in a mess and heading further downhill. Not clear what the Brexit referendum was about... sure, leaving the EU, but... We want access to the single market, which comes with free movement of people (thought the Brexiteers didn't want 'free movement of people') We didn't want to have to comply with EU rules (we would have to if we wanted to access the single market) We expected to keep London as a financial centre (It's likely to move to somewhere else in the EU) Some thought the NHS was going to get £3500000 a week extra Property prices will fall (maybe, but why would you want to live there with no jobs) So, unless you're a Brexiteer who thought we would sign a suicide pact with North Korea and everything would get better, we're going to pay more if we leave to get what we already had. Surely time to stop this madness and have some further vote?

Good Morning Batman hope you have enjoyed your first two weeks outside the EU I don’t think the margin is relevant what is relevant is that people who voted out have no idea what they have voted for and many people have said that they made a mistake voting Leave Most did not realise that there would be major concerns with the economy and we still do not know what the negotiations will bring to whether we are in the single market or not and how long it will take to resolve any trade deals so we can export and foreign companies can invest for jobs and housing. The Referendum was set up purely for political purposes not for you and me but for the Tory Party. So with austerity and nobody listening it was not surprising there was a revolt and LEAVE won with quite a few dodgy messages. I accept we are out of the EU but feel that the LEAVE side lied about how the economy would fare after we left the EU I know you don’t think that the economy matters but I can assure you things are not looking good for employment and living standards in the next few years LEAVE also gave the impression there would be £350000m a day to be spent on the NHS immigration would be reduced and we would still be in the single market some of which they have backtracked on. Now a bunch of right wing elitist Tories are going to vote a right wing Tory PM one who wants to bring back fox hunting and seems to have loads of money offshore which she is avoiding tax on and nobody at the moment. With half a million people dying every year and possibly the same number of new electors on the electoral role the number wanting BREXIT when we finally leave will probably be less than now and they may even be in the minority is that democracy? The only reason I can see for having another referendum is to let the electorate decide that the deal to leave the EU is a good one and the country will be better off than being in the EU The only good thing is that lying Cameron and Slasher Osborne will no long be around to the benefit of their rich buddies whilst treating much of the population with contempt

Yes OUT won the referendum last week but is highly likely that if it was held today that the result would be different as some of things said by the OUT side were clearly untrue and the things economists were saying have occurred which will eventually lead to unemployment and a reduction in living standards . I voted REMAIN because there was not a plan available which showed in the future how the country would function economically outside the EU. Without a successful economy the social fabric of the country will fail. I do agree that the current economy is not good because of the Banking Crash and Austerity but that has sweet FA to do with the EU however people were happy with that a year ago as Cameron and Osborne were returned to Government through scare stories and untruths which people did not believe during the Referendum. I know you want OUT but do you know what OUT really means because if you do you are probably one of the few around. Lets face it there has been misinformation spread throughout the Referendum Campaign and it is quite easy to find out the true facts and people voted out for various reasons some nothing to do with the EU. The referendum w3as only called by a weak Cameron to placate his Eurosceptic MPs and there was only one option REMAIN as nobody had any idea what the UK would look like out of the EU. I know you voted OUT but do you know what OUT really means because if you do you are probably one of the few around. Have you any idea what the UK is going to be like in five years time it has got to be a lot different otherwise there was no point in leaving. I voted NO in 1975 so I am not very good with Referendia Purely on an economic level we find ourselves in a situation of uncertainty yes I accept fair democratic votes but if I find the outcome will cause suffering I object to it. Labour Liberal party members and MPs accept that they lost the last election but they still get involved in opposing the Government that is what democracy is about speaking out when things are wrong with a view to getting back into Government at a later date.

I find it very difficult replying to your post because lets face it you are not very reasonable and have little idea of economic facts where do you get the information from as it is plainly wrong you just have generalisations with nothing to back them up I am not sure you can have an opinion on Economics without stating relevant verifiable information but we seem to be in an era of somebody‘s gut feeling being the truth based on no facts this hardly shows they know what they are talking about The Eurozone is growing after its problems with Greece and the Global Banking crash http://www.tradingeconomics.com/euro-area/gdp-growth The last quarter better than the UK http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/gdp-growth https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/apr/27/uk-gdp-growth-slows-to-04-amid-eu-referendum-uncertainty Whilst Brazil is in recession http://www.tradingeconomics.com/brazil/gdp-growth-annual EUROZONE better than Canada http://www.tradingeconomics.com/canada/gdp-growth A lot better than Russia and Japan http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-growth http://www.tradingeconomics.com/japan/gdp-growth But not as good as Australia http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/gdp-growth To leave the biggest market in the world with no credible plan with regard to trade investment and taxation is economic madness which is now obvious as the £ falls the FTSE250 falls UK GDP falls and investment funds are frozen as investors want to get out of sterling some times buying long term bonds at negative interest as they are very concerned about the long term future of the UK economy. Why are the vast majority of Economic Organisations Economists Leaders of Countries Business Leaders and Trade Union Leaders say leaving the EU is a terrible decision with so many negative consequences And if it was a good idea why are all the UK Political Parties not shouting it from the rooftops with great plans on how well the country will do outside the EU. The Treasury obviously has made no plans for BREXIT because it is such a stupid idea economically. Of course the economy will grow in the future but there will be serious problems along the way as most of the country will see their standard of living fall but never mind you Duck Hunter and Derry are happy and sod the rest of us.

Sorry but it is totally wrong to leave now economically you really have no idea what you are talking about

Sorry I meant $1.50 not made up because I consulted http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/GBPUSD:CUR although in November I sold a book to the USA via GBP Direct Deposit Ex. Rate: 1.5292) Still a significant fall but as you say good for some but not for the majority as holidays imported food and goods will go up so might oil but the price of that is going down because of the economic down turn

Yes for once I agree with you Osborne was an extremely poor Chancellor causing suffering to millions who voted for LEAVE whilst making the Super Rich even more Super Rich. The Super Rich have so much money squirreled away which is not being invested to give people jobs so that the future is not good it would have been better to give much of this money to you and me who would spend it increasing GDP production and productivity instead of lieing in a bank receiving only a little interest. We never needed austerity we needed investment and a huge effort to get in the taxes we should have received from companies and individuals who avoided them and taxes on bonuses from the bankers who caused the Global Crash. Osborne did not follow Darling's Plan he did meet the figures set out by Darling who would have invested more in infrastructure and housing so the economy would be in a better shape now as currently it seems to be based on foreign investment in property and personal debt. However BREXIT has caused uncertainty as economic figures show with our economy slowing and growth cut so coupled with your comments on the poor state of the economy because of Osborne we are not in a good shape. But BREXIT is the straw that broke the camel's back which has seen the pound drop from $1.60 or so to $1.27 and the serious reduction in UK and foreign investment This will ultimately lead to inflation more unemployment and less disposable income. We only joined the EU because of its economic advantages in the 1970s so we will be left with economic disadvantages when we leave. Some people and companies will of course flourish in the new order but unfortunately most will not Perhaps we will now adopt Ed Balls economic plan for growth and equality as Osbornes plans are consigned to the dustbin of incompetence and history Of course the finances have every chance of improving Yes he will blame Brexit for his failings

Probably May voters will vote for Gove in the second round to get Gove into second place. But that said Leadsome is an awful candidate for PM

With the dire warnings coming from every reliable economic authority that our economy is now a basket case again we truly have got our country back to where it was in 1973.

Very True but still a nasty racist campaign from him which even his only MP was ashamed of. Without Bonking Boris the serial liar and Mr Gove the apparent drunk serial back stabber I doubt Farage would have been successful he was not even in the official LEAVE Campaign Not sure Andrea is going to be that good [Leadsom’s] one-year stint from 2014-15 at the Treasury as City minister was seen inside 1 Horseguards Road as ‘a disaster’ by one official. ‘She was the worst minister we’ve ever had.’ Unlike Ms May, she has also not held down a cabinet job. Ms Leadsom’s allies say that Mr Osborne blocked her promotion to the cabinet and after the last election the chancellor asked for her to be moved out of the Treasury. She was transferred by David Cameron to the energy department. ‘She found it difficult to understand issues or take decisions,’ said another Treasury official. ‘She was monomaniacal, seeing the EU as the source of every problem. She alienated officials by continually complaining about poor drafting.’ She also seems to have off shore accounts and appears as an ex banker a tax advoider as well

Mines on Nigel Farage

Leadsom was moved from the Treasury because she was useless according to the FT but I dont think she is experienced enough and seems a bit too right wing May is experienced but pretty boring Gove is a serial back stabber apparently Fox will be knocked out tomorrow Forgotten the name of the other Just like Labour no one stands out What do you think