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Terrorist Attacks - WARNING: CONTAINS DISTRESSING IMAGES
John B replied to sadoldgit's topic in The Lounge
We have had immigration for hundreds of years it is only in the last twenty or so years we have seen the rise of ISIS and other similar groups I am not condoning violence in any way but there must be some reason why it is happening lets face it our country up the 1960s was responsible for some pretty awful violence in its colonies and the centenary of the 1916 rising bears this out. We are still doing it to some extent bombing Syria and Iraq but we seem to live in a pretty poorly led era where our leaders are not up to the job -
Terrorist Attacks - WARNING: CONTAINS DISTRESSING IMAGES
John B replied to sadoldgit's topic in The Lounge
How is Islam is an aggressive religion at odds with Western civilization It maybe there are aggressive people making it look like it is not unlike the Nationalist and Union Thugs in Northern Ireland. But I must admit is is very hard to control people who are hell bent on blowing themselves up so they can be a martyr -
Not so sure if they got rid of Scotland they could possibly rule for ever in England as they only have one seat in Scotland
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I am sorry Wes I was only trying to have a laugh I voted no in the 1970s but now I am not sure out is a good thing because I live in an area which is very dependent on North American Companies for work and most are here because of access to the single market In fact my elder daughter works for a Canadian company which sell products and services through out Europe and the likelihood is that they will move to Paris where they have a small office. I think this referendum is pants as we are only seem to be having it because our incompetent PM decided to have one to placate the right wing of his party and to stop MPs and voters going to UKIP. It would be different if there was a clear choice stay in a slightly reformed EU or leave with firm proposals as what that would entail and whether non UK companies would leave the UK eventually to gain access to the single market and what would happen to the pound and tariffs within the EU. You just have to look how our country is so dependent on foreign companies locally with Dell HP Microsoft Oracle Honeywell Fujistu and Siemens being the main employers But now all we have is outers going on about migration and sovereignty and inners saying what might happen with regard to farming energy or anything else. According to the OECD the Euro zone s growing better than than the UK and we are heading for a period of low growth thanks to Austerity so I would prefer to stay with the status quo and not risk anything happening to the economy which makes it go into recession which has been suggested by the Mark Carney of the Bank of England. http://www.oecd.org/std/leading-indicators/CLI-Mar16.pdf But I understand concerns that people like you have about EU making laws which are unacceptable to the UK but I think there are enough checks to make certain that this does not happen. Most seem to be beneficial I particularly like the reduction of costs to mobile phone users when they are in other countries within Europe
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I am sorry to go on but the deficit was not caused by chronic overspending by the Labour Party as lied by the Tories but by the global financial crisis that resulted in recession and a calamitous collapse in tax revenues. By 2007 Labour had cut the level of national debt, and was running a lower annual deficit than it inherited when Tony Blair moved into Number 10. In fact, as the 2009 budget shows, what actually happened is that the Treasury’s own projections for the tax take plummeted. They had expected growth in revenue, but in fact they got a collapse. By 2009/10 they were taking in about £112 billion less than they had expected to. And that’s why they needed to borrow so much. Yes, spending went up a bit. But really, they just had a lot less income than they had planned for. Labour cut some of its debts, but it could have done much more. That said, the drop in tax receipts triggered by the economic crisis is what’s behind the bulk of the £149bn deficit. So who can be trusted more to run the economy – Labour or the Tories? If the Conservatives succeed in eliminating the deficit and reviving the economy then Labour will be in trouble. However, if the recovery starts to falter again, the Labour might once again earn the right to be heard on economic matters which is where we are at the moment because growth is slowing and the deficit is not falling as fast as was promised despite all this austerity as tax receipts in January were worse than expected this leaves the public sector deficit heading for a higher figure by the end of the financial year this month than the Office for Budget Responsibility’s £72.2bn target.. http://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/time-to-rewrite-bit-of-oral-history.html Most of the GDP growth has occurred because of immigration and the economic activity of the migrants so an increase in immigration will lead to more growth and a lowering of the deficit who would have thought that https://www.oecd.org/migration/OECD%20Migration%20Policy%20Debates%20Numero%202.pdf But of course there needs to be investment in Schools Roads Housing etc if migration is to be viewed as an economic success Portsmouth is understood to have become the first city council to vote to leave the EU in the forthcoming referendum so people like Wes Tender might like to move there and be with BREXIT brothers mind you I would be surprised if anyone there was interested in Sovereignty
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Terrorist Attacks - WARNING: CONTAINS DISTRESSING IMAGES
John B replied to sadoldgit's topic in The Lounge
Yes Moen Ali won us the T20 World Cup game to day plus Muslim doctors have saved thousands of lives -
You must be joking the the economy is a really bad shape at the moment no growth low wages people not getting enough work and the no economic plan Until the Global crash of 207/2008 Labour was doing a good job with the economy with the Tories agreeing to their economic spending Most people do not take enough notice of what goes on with regard to politics and economics and just read sound bites which are usually myths from the newspapers. Since I was born in 1946 the GDP of the country has risen by an average of 2% per year under both Labour and Tory in fact I believe Labour has a very small advantage 2.194% to 2.188% growth is now expected to be around 1.5%. But the facts are never a strong point for the Tories just lies and smear as could be seen today with Boris and his terrible showing at the Select Committee meeting today
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We are part of the EU and are involved with creating Laws there we also have the veto but what laws are you concerned with Most seem pretty good to me on workers rights and the environment
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Dont know why anybody would want to be a ref . I have a friend who has son who refs to quite a high standard and when he goes to matches where he is in charge the abuse Dan receives is terrible and he is only doing his best and knows football inside out
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You are probably right but it is fun thinking that you maybe be barking after all and we finish in the top 5. Just be optimistic for a change things may well go right for us it did 30 years or so ago when we were 2nd and 40 years ago when we won the cup so it could happen again this year.
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I am not so sure I agree with your international break comment but Leicester cannot surely keep winning so I think we have a chance
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Exactly Prof most on here have unrealistic aspirations
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Yes but should get more from the rich and big business but they donate to the Tory Party
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Green Party leader Natalie Bennett has said it is too late for Duncan Smith “to paint himself as a champion of the disabled”, adding that it is successive governments that are to blame for young people having to pay for bankers’ failures. Iain Duncan Smith correctly observed in his resignation letter that the government’s fiscal approach is increasingly regarded as an ideological-driven dead end even in the Tory Party, but it is far too late for this former Tory leader to paint himself as a champion of the disabled when he has presided for so long over a welfare regime that has left disabled and ill people in dire poverty and desperate fear. Iain Duncan Smith is right to identify the way in which young people have been made to pay for the greed and fraud of the bankers, but he is wrong to blame a whole generation of their elders. Britain’s state pension is among the lowest in Western Europe, 16% of pensioners live in poverty. The problem lies with the decisions of successive governments to allow rich individuals to accumulate a larger share of the nation’s wealth, while multinational companies have become parasites failing to pay their way with taxes or decent wages and benefiting from wholesale privatization of public assets. I cannot disagree can anyone
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Southampton appeal against Sadio Mane red card - Appeal Successful
John B replied to Koolman's topic in The Saints
If you expect refs to get have decision correct you will have to wait a long time . Just like you they are human and wrong decisions will always be made just accept it it is part of the game He must be a good ref otherwise he would not be near the PL -
Proved right again I see I have said many times the only consistent thing about the Saints is their inconsistency Liverpool next they are in some second rate cup which we thought we were beneath last autumn and left on Thursday so perhaps that will give us the edge
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You are probably right but something needs to be done because if we want to trade with the EU either in or out there will still be free movement that is why I support Plaid Cymru SNP Sinn Fien SDLP Corbyns Labour Party possibly the LIB DEMS who wish to disassociate themselves from the Neoliberal economics of the Tories and New Labour and invest for the future especially since interest rates are so low with most of the world's top economists in agreement. Thats my lot back to football tomorrow lets hope for a win I never know with the Saints over the last sixty or so years the only consistent thing about the Saints is there in consistency
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Most of the so called immigration is not immigration it is movement within the single market but I have no difficulty in calling it immigration I think the levels of immigration are necessary if we are to support any aging population see how many are in the care sector the home my mother was in in Shawford had loads of them. However we need to be told why immigration is needed and not parties making political capital out of it like we have had with UKIP which has caused the current referendum where anything but the true facts are being revealed. Because we need non UK people to do jobs we need to make certain that they are not being taken advantage of with respect to pay which stops UK citizens getting them there is no real evidence that this is happening a great deal but of course it must happening in particular instances The main problem however is the lack of housing throughout the whole country as all governments over the last 25 years have failed to build enough houses and the selling of social housing has caused the rise of private landlords trying to make as much as possible out of us all. Well over 50% of bought Council houses are now in the private rental sector and sometimes people think migrants are getting preferential treatment on housing but most are renting these ex council houses privately. If more houses are built more taxes will be raised the economy will grow. Of course with an increased population we need more schools more teachers more nurses more doctors more of everything So we need investment in infrastructure and decent jobs which pay well not zero hours contracts and poorly paid jobs in shops bars pubs and restaurants.
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You make a very valid point but we need a growing economy to support people living longer so immigration is important unfortunately we have politicians who have never done a job in their life and say whatever comes into their head . We need to have a plan how we are going to build more houses schools train more teachers train more doctors etc to meet the needs of a growing population. Cameron thinks a plan is to say we will build 200000 houses a year that is an aspiration I am 70 years old I am glad I will not be around when everything goes pear shaped through lack of planning this Government is truly awful it wants power but it does not want to invest for the future it panders to pensioners like me as we are more likely to vote and not the young who need to work in decent jobs with decent jobs in the future.
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Yes Chivers to Paine I think at the Archers Road End have a feeling Billy Bonds was playing for Charlton that day and was outstanding
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The M3 went from Sunbury to Popham in 1976 used to use it regularly dont recall when the rest was opened dont you remember the bus going from Southampton to Anderlect that way
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I was there that I think it was January 1964 my brother had an appendicitis and was rushed to the Royal South Hants Hospital we gave the ticket to the driver. We went 2 0 with a fantastic Chivers left foot shot but as you say eventually lost 3 2 we of course had to wait 12 years to get revenge at Wembley. I drove up the M3 that day absolutely confident that we were going to win and that of course is what happened
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Never saw Stanley Matthews play but I did see him at the Dell in 1963 When Stoke were promoted to Div 1 when there was a guard of honour for him at the start of the League game as he was injured he did not play WE won 2 0
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I used to get in the Boys Entrance when I was in the Upper Sixth at St Mary's with a few others my younger brother used to leave after breakfast so it felt to be first in the Q I think the gates may have opened at midday. Even today fifty years later he is always early for functions. There were some great games in the Bates/Paine era before Div 1 but the Man U Semi Final mentioned by Derry was not one of them unfortunately .
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I think you mean Darren Bent Robert Fleck seemed a nice chap when he used to come and pick his daughter up from my house as she was a friend of my daughter mind you that was sometime in the last century. The only player I recall I got upset with was David Burnside who left us for Crystal Palace who knocked us out of the FA cup at the Dell dont remember what he did Didnt like Beattie much either when he scored in the Darren Bent game