Saint Fan CaM

On the face of it I would agree, but let’s say for arguments sake that the ‘spying’ started 72 hours and 10 minutes prior to the first semi starting and stopped 9 minutes later. That’s not cheating - that’s playing by the rules, irrespective of whether Boro might claim we’ve gained an advantage and its morally wrong. What if the same scenario had happened but the ‘spying’ stopped 11 minutes later? It could be argued both ways that rules had still not been broken if the exact wording of said rules did not make it clear, again irrespective of the ‘morality’ of the action. That’s part of the context, along with a clear understanding of the employment status of the alleged ‘spy’. That’s what the tribunal needs to establish of course and my point was to observe that a simple ‘yes they spied’ or ‘no they didn’t’ just won’t cut it.

See, for me the whole premise of it being ‘morally repugnant’ plays inappropriately into Boro’s narrative. Let’s remember that the regs state that spying is unacceptable <72 hours before the teams play against each other. This in itself suggests the practice of ‘spying’ is perfectly acceptable and indeed accepted outside of 72 hours. So who’s to say it’s not a widespread practice across the entire EFL? This has to be at least a part of the context talked about.

Cannot believe the EFL would risk a sanction that involves removing Saints from the competition - would be completely unfair and open to legal challenges. Precedence IF found guilty after looking at the full evidence would be a fine commensurate with the issue. Adding some form of points deduction, even delayed, would be disproportionate too. My feeling is there are two key unknowns that will have a bearing on the outcome - was the lad in full employ of Saints and under instruction, and secondly, has convincing evidence been provided that any training information gained was substantive enough to gain an advantage. That’s why Saints have insisted they need to investigate ‘context’ rather than just admitting to the charge as Leeds/Bielsa did. I guess we can all speculate - the next couple of days will reveal much.

I’m not able to attend whatever the date/time, so hey ho.

Fair play, but as I’ve already explained, it was said in the spirit of reverse psychology…hence the winky emoji. 🤭

I claim the old reverse psychology thing! 🤣🤣🤣

Credit to Boro - good team well managed. Just lacking that quality at the end. As for Saints, deserved in the end. Think we can do it.

On balance we deserve this

Yeeeeesssss!!!! Charles does it!!!

Oh shit - Sarmiento on. Match winner.

Please not pens - need a goal very much here. We’re on top - just pull the trigger guys…take chance.

Need Fellows to get out of defence.

Peretz has another clearance fuckup. Another yellow for Boro.

They’ll have a little resurgence of fitness after coming back on, so keeping it tight in the first five mins of ET is essential.

Azaz a passenger this evening