Saint Fan CaM

Betcha the Board/SR are cocka-hoop with the 0-0 their new Head Coach has delivered. Stopped the rot so far eh? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

QPR are not great, but we’re worse. Unless you want possession and pointless pass stats of course… then we’re the muts fucking nuts.

Rubbish from Manning

26 minutes in - usual boring bollox

They had to go back for Manning - he’d gone missing again on one of his walk-abouts.

I heard that Rasmus considered that the usual pre-match routine was considered not broken…so…

I’ve been trying to get this point across for weeks now - reckon it’s a Group stipulated requirement to ease flow of players from one club to another - i.e. Rasmus retains ultimate control.

You’d think right? But there have been muted messages from people around the club that players either have not followed instructions (or followed them poorly) or taken poor decisions (and that’s been abundantly clear to all of us).

I’d lay odds that you’ll see little to no difference. Same as it ever was.

Fair points. As you say, not his fault - club far too broken for a man with relatively little credit in the bank to sort out all the issues.

How do you know that they were told NOT to do that, but then did it anyway because they didn’t want to take responsibility on the ball?

A very insightful post. As it happens I don’t think there is any single one cause for the decline in performances, but ‘player power’ and dressing room cliques probably contribute. There are players in and around the first team who operated under the shield of RM and his possession based slow football - they are being found out by the new managers coming in and they probably don’t like it. Still really was on a hiding to nothing and nowhere near strong enough to sort out the cultural, performance, fitness and mentality issues that the squad has endured and I would suggest even new players have been sadly tainted such is the influence of the old brigade.

OK that tells me Carrick is another Martin, Still etc apologist…not for me, however it wouldn’t surprise me if SR would think this guy is just the chap to continue with the big group system experiment. 🙄

Yeah feel the same - my pleasure in seeing a player of Romeu’s stature back at the club is tempered significantly by SR’s demonstrable ability to ultimately fuck things up, thereby negating any positive step forwards. Brace yourself chaps - I have a feeling tomorrow night will see the return of some ‘old’ favourites and a lot of aimless possession.

I’m sticking to my prediction that we’ll lose this. QPR are an OK side and our interim come permanent Manager will not have enough time to start turning things around, even if he has the know-how (which I very much doubt). Think the best we might see is a bit more cohesion and fight.

Welcome back Ori - invaluable experience so let’s hope he’s able to stay fit.

Vierra would top my list followed shortly by Carrick, although that’s based purely on gravitas and not on much knowledge of how he approaches tactics. What I want to see is evidence of the exorcism of Russball/SR-ball or whatever it is. I also want to see the acid influence of players like Jack Stephens wiped out - I think certain players have much to do with the demise of the culture at the club.

Nothing wrong with Martin. His football is as boring as shit however. No, no and thrice no. Thanks.

I get the interim bit - he’s doing well with the U-21’s. SR keeping him on is definitely an SR thing, but also characteristically really next level fucking stupid. Remember Wigley? It’s that all over again. Promoting someone doing well at a lower level in the club in the vain hope he’s the second coming. It broke Wigley and I predict it’ll break this guy if he’s given the job permanently.

Is this real and confirmed that Romeu is coming back? Absolutely brilliant if so…he’ll tutor Charles and Jander very well.

If it’s Martin - well, it’s a joke isn’t it? But the noises seem to suggest he’s in the running FFS.

So out with Still and in with a bloke who SR think can do a job under their system because he’s had some success at U-21 level. Trollope and Lallana still employed. Fuck me they're not going to learn are they? What’s the betting we’ll see the same back 5 and/or the same turgid passing around at the back and slow transitional play football? Very little confidence that SR will be able to get this or any other recruitment decision completed successfully.

Understand your point, however the culture in the club between players and coaches must be at an all time low and the lad has been a part of that for more than one season. I can’t see him being too far from the coaching action given he sits on the bench every game (not that I’ve noticed very much interaction between the coaches during a game anyway). For me the least messy scenario is for a clean sweep.

Why leave Lallana in place - he’s part of the coaching malaise that has spectacularly failed to motivate the team? If there’s going to be a clear out then do a proper job and allow the new incumbent to bring his own people. It’s unlikely anything will change positively with a new Manager anyway (it’s THAT broken), however not getting the next coaching team appointments right will see us down for certain.

I get it - we’re all pissed - but let’s get some perspective here. But he’s not ‘just fucking shit’ - he’s actually had some success at a very respectable level in World football. However, what he is NOT, is a man capable of repairing the significant damage done by successive poor player and coaching recruitment decisions by SR and delivering any semblance of success in a horribly flawed system. In Trollope he has a proven failure of a coach alongside him and in Lallana a quiet novice that couldn’t punch his way out of a wet paper bag. That managerial team experiment has shown itself to be wholly incapable of the HUGE task it faced and the club need to act decisively to make that right with haste. Unfortunately it’s SR, so nobody is expecting action for a while yet if atall.