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Exactly. Let's not forget that until we signed Jay Rodriguez that meagre 4million was equivalent to our record signing!

Pretty sure that's a 'he is no good'. Perhaps another ex-S****horpe player?!!

Good way of building up your own points too

I'd say desperately trying to secure a bank loan against the future payments we offer is a sign that they are both cash-strapped and trying to accept out best terms.

No cant see them anywhere. Only way is to work them out yourself using transaction history. Makes me wonder if the club even have them tbh.

Wouldn't say no.

Yeah it's good value. It's because they're categorised and we're in the lowest category.

If true it just shows what a bizzare and unusual transfer this is- the buying club waiting on the selling club to arrange finances FFS.

Point me in the direction of the proof that we're not in negotiations to sign a CB and back up your moronic blind pessimism. Just because you can't see something doesn't mean that it isn't happening- if that was the case then you would argue that Saints aren't playing games because you never see them happen.

This. Also I don't for a second believe that they've only just worked out how much they'd get from the deal.

Rumour has it QPR had scouts watching Phillips last night. Also, people on a Blackpool forum reckon Holloway and Co are after money and a player rather than straight cash. To be taken with a pinch of salt I hasten to add.

As said, people need to stop jumping on every tweet or change of story. It can still go either way until the window shuts.

'tis not over yet.

I reckon we're probably fairly confident that no other club is going to match our offer. He's not going to go to one of the very top sides and not many other clubs have that sort of money at the moment. The media is clearly being used as a way to try and force the hand of one of the clubs. Whether this will work remains to be seen but to say it's over anytime between now and the 31st is simply not likely to be true.

Lol people literally change their minds every time someone different tweets something. It's neither over or confirmed until the window is shut or ita confirmed on the OS of our club or another club if he goes elsewhere.

Scored one and set one up against England U21s.

I hope Lambert is watching Fellaini! Can see Adkins using the same tactics as he did against Palace last season when he matched Lambert against Clyne.

Who said this to him?

Just a load of Liverpool fans on twitter.

Seems positive, I think!

I don't think anyone is suggesting that, well I'm certainly not. I took it as presumed that any player that Adkins 'threw in' would be done so because he believed they fit best into the system we need to play against City.

Ha I can't relax! You can always PM! Won't tell anyone!

Would like to think so, though I'm a little worried about the mismatch in size and strength between our CMs and the likes of Yaya Toure! Can see him powering through us. Would quite like to see Paulo in goal tbh, though Davis deserves his chance I guess. Could be that Lallana is pushed forwards to the front 3 rather than the middle 3 and we see Morgan, JWP and Chambers in there.

Could be a back 5. Fox has played CB before so could play him and Shaw. However it's unlikely we'll play that as we haven't done so preseason. 4-3-3 I reckon.

To say it's a big risk makes me think it must be a defensive position- playing someone different up front may not work out but it's not exactly a risk, as we can change that. Back 4 of Clyne, Stephens, Hooiveld and Fox/Shaw I reckon.