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yep, I 4-1 am. I'm especially jealous of the gobby ones who tried to distract from their own club's appalling season and assured me that Redknapp would turn QPR around and relegate us. Wonder how that little plan worked out. At least the great pompey hero learned from his previous mistakes, bought sensibly, and didn't do special deals with agent friends that would saddle his club with overpaid deadwood and lead directly to Insolvency Central. Summary of the season - pompey sink into the bottom tier, we stay up, Redknapp relegated, and when you analyse the reality of it, between the minor peaks his managerial CV looks like a car crash... I also enjoyed Ben Haim failing miserably, and Jamie O'Hara leading Wolves out of the championship. Nice little touch to see Nugent do so well today as well. We just need to see the great hero Rocha price himself out of bargain basement football and that will tick another box. You have to make the most of it when football's great.

indeed, old pikey boy will move directly from the defensive rock that next year's team should be built around to greedy moneygrabbing hedgehog-eater who had no pace. Tis the pompey way.

pompey player offers realistic view of future shock!... One thing I do know is it’s not going to be easy in League Two next season. Anyone who thinks it will be straight-forward to bounce back is going to be in for a surprise. Shaun Cooper must be a scummah for offering such nonesense. Or is he worried that the games will be too big for the refs and that every side will regard a trip to the packed fortress as their cup final? Yes that must be it, pompey are too big for the league and as a result have generated the best expectation in world football. I recall reminding myself when we were playing the likes of Dagenham that we were in that league on merit and should be wary of looking down on anyone who has earned the right to play at the same level. Rochdale gave us a lesson in humility, perhaps Newport and friends will offer a few similar lessons down the road, but I doubt that they'll be taken on board by a club that ignores reality and claims to have the best atmosphere in THE WORLD.

The battling PR machine is up and running again, peddling simple messages to the deluded and hard of thought. Guy Whittingham says Pompey can fight fire with fire as Premier League big guns move in on their territory. The Blues boss reckons his club can more than match the likes of Chelsea who are aiming to poach their young talent. I suspect they will in reality be fighting fire with a petrol-soaked newspaper. But it's always nice to hear a shrill rallying cry that suggests a League Two club has more to offer than the Champions of Europe when it comes to signing a young player deemed good enough to one day play in the top flight. When the first team stops training out of their car boots and they can afford some cones, perhaps they can convince the next youngster's parents that they still have that youth set up that they formerly boasted was 'the envy of the rest of the country'. Methinks an extinct football dinosaur is still trying to bark like a big animal. Squeak, squeak.

the fit and proper person test was a last resort check for clubs who were incapable of making sensible decisions on who they get into bed with. The few bang on about that aspect as if the football authorities imposed loan sharks, organised crime, people who didn't exist and fantasists upon them. The league didn't pick these owners, they were all chosen as partners by the club. But no - it has to be someone else's fault. As for Guy's little outburst - the idea was you play the kids and stop spending money, not fill your squad with £5K a week journeymen and leave the kids out in the cold. And this from a club who bent those rules by loaning out players to bring in new ones... I'm sure the league will welcome advice from people like that. The PFA will just demand security for whatever is owed as they can see it never happening, and previously I think they only had the football creditor rule to help them (?) - would this be a more aggressive stance?.

Please please please tell me that Portpin are one of the new charges securing future payments!! And Tweeting Lord Palmerston scrapes another barrel until the bottom is more transparent than his own club's shaky business plans. Yes of course Mythmaster General, all Saints fans leave their council-owned flatpack at halftime, boo their own team, are made up mainly of asylum seekers and the jobless with free tickets, worship an SS tank commander, and are bitterly jealous of their mighty neighbours. And all of that is key when the rugby authorities choose their venues - they care not a jot about transport links, hotels, proximity to international airports, capacities or costs, they just want to know if the usual occupants of a venue are plucky and bestest, or not.

Had you asked me a couple of years ago I would have said that he was a broadcasting legend, now he's just a sad old sex offender. Betrayed his public. Disgusted. And I hope we don't hear the old, 'I didn't do anything wrong, but it's easier to plead guilty to avoid a trial' nonesense. NO ONE would confess to fiddling with a nine-year-old just to avoid a trial, if innocent you'd fight that charge to your dying day. As for his family, is it possible to drag them any deeper through a sewer of shame?

Avram, what a legend. He took them to a new level, then he buggered off when it suited, as they always do. And I hear a very strong rumour that he was back in touch recently, looking for a glorious homecoming - or a happy ending as he'd call it. He presumably heard Guy say that they were looking to splash out on a young Latvian* On an unrelated matter, I still can't believe that pompey fans were happy for their hard-earned season ticket money to be spent on a car and a driver to take an old perv prossie-bothering - there was not a single complaint. Astonishing. Anyway, here's the new business, fully funded, debt-free, and ready for action!... But not trusted by credit card companies, so please pay cash, and as soon as possible as cashflow could cripple us within a month. *great to see that old joke back, it must be a year since it had an outing - the same as little Avram.

The takeover will complete when they pay the CVA and accompanying agreements. I believe the last of those is due at the end of 2018. This thread has survived quiet periods and previous 'takeovers' as none completed successfully. As for congratulating all pompey fans, many on here have spoken positively about the enthusiasm of Trust members, but any poster who feels that this isn't sufficient and wants to offer further blessings is welcome to start their own new thread, I'm sure it will rival this one in no time at all. My own contribution to that particular campaign would be yes, they've done really well - they have borrowed money, lots of it. Quite an achievement. Well done. Yes, they have taken on two big loans, nice. That is certainly a trailblazing blueprint for the world game. IF however they pay it all back and complete the takeover agreement, they will richly deserve 100% congratulations. But in the meantime I'll offer them .4% congratulations over five years, less expenses.

I'm just chuffed with my promotion from Nutjob to pathetic Nutjob! I was starting to worry that this thread had a glass ceiling and that there was no career path, but with this latest step up the ladder into middle-management I can now dream about joining the bitter and twisted Nutjobs on the top floor. I hear that they get their own parking spaces and exclusive use of the thread toilet.

that looks to me like he bottled the ground-ownership gig and decided to be a money lender instead. He owns next door so he controls all future development - the same tool the child-maimer used to control the club's plans. So I believe the Trust owns the ground, but it was financed by large loans from Robinson and the council - thus making pompey fully fan-owned, as technically the fans borrowed the money. I'm just not quite sure where the debt-free claim came from, as that is plainly fantasy and spin. If my understanding is correct then they have gone from being in debt to a man who lends money when others won't, to being in debt to a man who lends money when others won't, and the council.

We knew that the fresh debts would require security but it's a bit daunting to see in black and white that the council and a finance company now have full control of everything that pompey own. They just need to miss a payment and we're back to square one. Presumably the dream scenario for the property developing finance company is to go without a payment and to take the lard-riddled ground off them. It's like life insurance, it's always dangerous to be in the position where your partners are better off without you. So my business tip to pompey would be, don't fall out with Robinson or his backers.

A sad loss - but a man who achieved what many only dream of, will always be remembered fondly. He pulled on a Saints shirt, wore it with pride, and scored a goal at Wembley. Our thoughts are with his family and friends.

you might be right View but I just don't see them accepting lower league football on a budget. Too many times in recent years I've thought 'at last, now they'll have to live within their means', only to be caught out by a dodgy move such as the fantasy false accounts that were presented to the high court allowing them to strengthen their squad for the cup run, or the loaning out of players to dodge the 20 man squad rule, or having no real CVA, but announcing one that wouldn't be paid, just to reduce penalties....etc After you see stunts like that pulled, and they eventually end up with a punishment that just makes them slightly more relegated than they already were, you suspect that they will ignore creditors, wriggle out of the FL restrictions and continue to live beyond their means. Having the PPs earmarked but not ringfenced means that they can use them all up, and not worry about the debts. Though I see that the south's leading investigative journalist is now best-placed to expose anything like that, and he's good at telling everyone the truth about dodgy owners. Maybe not so much a case of jobs for the boys but an undercover assignement? To quote KK, I would love it, absolutely love it...if they traded solvently and accepted life at the bottom of League Two. But I don't believe they will. There'll be a little spending spree on the horizon, dressed up as a frees on the lowest wages, paying their own camping fees and dining on local rodents. Then we'll have the overseas tour, sold to the few as paid for by someone else. Until the accounts emerge. History suggests this will happen - or am I just a jealous Nutjob, who through living on the frontline views our mighty neighbours through red mist?

But Wimbledon don't have the option to borrow the football creditor money and use it to build a team... There's no way pompey will pay that off, it'll be delayed as they spend the PPs on new players - if they do pay those debts instead, I'll present Steve Grant with a fiver in front of St Mary's.

So much for Chanrai being history - we now discover that he has a quarter of a million 'add-ons' tied up in the new business, and will take his last money from the club in five years time. Should those modest payments not appear on the day that they are due he will no doubt claim whatever security arrangements he requested in the agreement - a bit like he did last time, and that went really well for the club. Looking at some of the projections, I'm not sure it'll be the Trust that he's chasing when those payments are missed. And what's the likelihood of the great heroes like Kanu and Norris EVER getting their money? I see no reason why pompey will pay it. The authorities have proved to be toothless, the football creditor rule hasn't led to payment, it's just led to the debts being written down as IOUs that they never intend to honour. The only way the football debt will be paid is through redirecting the PPs. It's like CVA1 that's been dead for years, but only failed last week. The football debt isn't unpaid, it just hasn't been paid yet. It's still on some imaginary list to be paid, which to the FA and FL, makes it okay. They are gullible. The PFA need to jump up and down a bit, because the plonkers in blazers have clearly given up trying to police financial doping.

interesting Hutch, I was looking at projections too. Being generous and thinking they would come in cheap on the season tickets and cash in on the feelgood factor, I was thinking of their annual income nearer £4M, and a bargain basement wagebill of £1M. I reckon they need to average 15,000+ to stand still. Possible with a promotion push, but that's not easy with a squad that earns £1M. A promotion effort could require some players on £3k a week? - maybe an average of £2k. To put that into context, that would give you a playing wagebill of close to £3M... By doing the maths in pompey style, back-of-envelope, I think that in reality they need to have a wagecap of maybe £750 a week. Even after the great cull, one or two of their current stars must be on at least £2,500. So any future signings that raise your eyebrows are likely to take their budget into Championship levels, but this time there's no spare parachute payments or Plan B. Unless they do what Birch did last year, spend money that they know is spoken for in twelve months time... Their problem on day one of this thread was a need for new cash - not loans, real money that they could use to rebuild. 1771 pages later, that problem remains exactly the same. This latest new era appears to be built on loans and debt. Tis the pompey way mush. I fully expect to see the PPs being used to pay new wages to fund a plucky promotion warchest, and football debt to be delayed. Forever.

So NowTV asked for a comeback to match overturning a 4 goal deficit in a Champions League semi-final? And they got an equaliser in the Championship, from a bloke who didn't get paid? If that's the standard - I couldn't find my car keys once, but then I did. I've got loads more like that if little Will wants to curate a book. Oh, and I tried to start the mower a few years back, it didn't work, then it went second go. What a comeback that was, we still talk about it now.

My reading of that document suggests that they have borrowed £2.65M in total from two sources, both loans to be paid back pretty soon - six months? And the £1,000 fans have NO say over decisions, and the Trust has three members on a board of seven. Even by pompey maths that leaves four people who could outvote them on everything. Nice to see that man-in-the-street is going to be in control. I do hope they selected their board carefully.

great idea and good list - though I suspect that the investigative genius who exposed Watergate, discovered the grassy knoll, revealed the contents of Area 51, exhumed Lord Lucan, and crushed Chanrai in a series of blistering email interviews, is already on this. In the defence of a handful of pompey fans, some are already asking for simple clarification on some of these issues. Though I would like to see that list put to them in full at their next video session, filmed in the flat of Whittingham's nan.

Schoolboy error from luvverboy - three posts in an hour leaving no chance to respond to the 24 hours of ridicule that will descend. Just when the Nutjob bonfire reduces to glowing embers an unprepared visitor chucks on a can of unleaded and a few tons of timber. I give him a fortnight... But I love the attendance debate, we haven't done that for a bit. Unleash the dogs of stats!... Pack the Park? Didn't even unpack the pipes. But back to the press conference, so at the time of purchase they had £1.6M HNW and £1.5M from fans. If the £400K since then it going to buy shares, then surely that will be paying back HNW individuals as they relinquish their percentages? Or will the intitial owners of more than 50% just give up control for no reason? IF their figures stack up (), with the council loan as well I don't see why they needed Robinson at all...is he now outside the tent, BUT as the next door neighbour, he controls all future development. And Farmery claiming 100% fan ownership seems to contradict their own figures... We need some transparency to see the actual detail on HNW equity from previous investment and the detail of the actual sale. Not that the room of journalists are at gunpoint or pressured into towing the PDT line, but my favourite bit was the long silence when they asked for questions. Tumbleweed blew through, a dog barked in the distance, and a lone church bell was heard before anyone was brave enough to address this version of events. An encouraging moment for the few who want to see their club survive was Trapani's reference to the bottom line and how everything must be viable. Let's hope that they do abandon their history and embrace solvent trading - and that they accept the league position which accompanies that approach.

not sure I can face it. Sycophantic backslapping, dewy-eyed children, doves being released, stunt display by mobility scooters - it's all going to be a bit sickly. Will they release those details today? What is Chinny going to get? On the day of purchase, what percentage was bought by the fans? This is a job for our old mate 'avin a larf mush'. He'd sort out some transparency. I predict another media love-in where elephants sit in front of the PDT bedsheet banner, yet no one mentions them.

what an interesting new view of history. Selective would be the polite description, as it carefully glosses over some of the more unsavoury facts, casting pompey as the unfortunate victim in every scenario. Nice try. I'll give that 2/10. And then I'll ignore my orginal promise and remark it as 1/50th of that - which I think ends up as a very reasonable .04 out of 10.

that is the smug look of a dog that knows it's got away with tax evasion, motoring offences, and impersonating a football manager. Though I could have sworn that it was Avram who had a panting b!tch down on all fours in the back of his motor....

Hold your horses Lord T, there's nothing sinister about that delay, they're just busy unveiling the details of the deal and uploading it all to transparency.com. Or maybe they need a couple of days to come up with a reason why Portpin still holds a charge, or are owed more than anyone expected, or why the 'fans' hold 30%, or some other add-on that won't look very clever in black and white?... Perhaps they're holding on until QPR are relegated so they can appoint an allstar heroic management dream team of Redknapp, Cotterill, Grant, Appleton and Whittingham. Get Lampitt and Storrie on the finances too, and I give them seven days until another insolvency event - just chuck the next minus ten into this season. They can use Football League debt services again - consolidate all of your punishments into one pointless hollow gesture.