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In case you all missed it: WOTTE WAS APPOINTED PERMANENTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! No Hoddle. no Boothroyd, nothing but WOTTE! Case, and thread, closed!

What a shocker - Dalek posts about Hoddle!

I don't give a flying f@ck if he holds some cards, all the cards, pocket Aces or anything else. The man is a TRAITOR, can not be trusted, and CAN NEVER BE REDEEMED! By "playing his cards" to bring back Ru**rt, out of pure spite against Crouch and with willful disregard of the club's best interest, and subsequently bending over every time Ru**rt wants him to, he has given up all rights to forgiveness from any true Saints fan.

Far too late for that. He's DIRT!

The Long Road To Nowhere

Are you seriously asking if he's devious? The answer is YES, And he is delusional in his own mind about his abilities, an egomaniac, a self proclaimed superior being, in short - he is the biggest and most devious w****r ever to be associated with this club.

Ditto, but certainly no appreciation either.

Continuity? Does he mean continually heading for league 1 with performances that are continually and consistently horrible? Any bets that this is a Ru**rt drawn statement published under the Quisling's name? Disgrace, nauseous, spineless, traitor ... these are all words that spring instantly, and continuously, to mind when I see that weasel's name.

I don't care who he blames. His own lack of coaching skills, lack of tactical insight, and lack of a spine in standing up to Ru**rt got him in this situation.

Judging from the article that started this thread, Wotte is also completely powerless against KvdW, so it might be a good guess that this change from JP to Wotte is nothing more than window dressing. KvdW (with Ru**rt in his back pocket) will run the show, not Wotte

Feijenoord fans on various old message boards are still referring to Wotte as a "fashion doll"; always dressed well, but lacking a brain?

Yup. Mr. Chocolate's Red and White Army? He's less qualified than even Jan, but he comes dressed up as a fashion doll and with an ego and attitude that spells even more disaster

That kind of role would not have playing footie on the training pitch, or sit in in "screaming matches" at the coaches table.

Wrong Trousers, there IS a conclusion. Actually there are multiple conclusions we cab draw: 1. Ru**rt has an advisor that he has kept hidden from the world 2. This advisor is heavily involved in setting football policy 3. This advisor irritates many people on the coaching staff, but they're afraid of acting against him 4. This advisor has as much experience doing DoF stuff as Ali Dia did playing 5. Nobody in the club has made it clear what/how this advisor gets paid

Living so far away I can of course not be there, but I fully support this demonstration, provided it is completely non-violent. I am with you all in spirit.

Read the translation of the article: He participates in the training and coaches meetings, tells JP that he can't do interviews, claims to have designed the strategies together with Ru**rt! Hardly an shrink or interpreter

The question is not IF he exists. We know he does, from the article. The questions are; - where did he come from - what is his experience - what is his function - why does he seem to have all this power - what are we paying him

Look at the map of Holland. The river Waal features prominently. HTH

I really hope you're joking. if not, seek help.

Right, I forgot that he refers somewhere to a "light Amsterdam" accent?

I don't think he cares about that at all. If he did, he would have never come back from his previous disastrous stint.

You guys quote an Echo story but I don't see any reference to the Van Der Waals story in there?

No news to report from my further investigations. The writer has not responded to my email. We still don't know who Van Der Waals is, and even if he were Belgian or Afrikaans (unlikely, as those accents are very recognizable and thick, even in Dutch, and it would have been mentioned in the article) there still remains the fact that he does not have a single Google reference anywhere.

I know why the article was written: The writer, Michel van Egmond, is Editor in Chief of the Feijenoord Krant (Feijenoord's own newspaper, published as far as I know in print only). Feijenoord is of course where Wotte was DoF when they also appointed Gullit as Manager. Both were spectacular failures. So this Feijenoord newspaper was simply doing a "where are they now" story on Wotte.

Can anyone on here get to Hockaday and see if he wants to talk?