
Verbal
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Only a racist scumbag - and the Daily Express, your undeclared source - would connect terrorist attacks to migration with an 'equals' sign. And why did you/The Express omit UK stats? Too inconvenient even for your flimsy argument? Or stats for Italy and Greece, which has borne the brunt of the migration crisis? The rest of your post is ignorant waffle desperately in search of a point - all that emerges from it is a woozy sentiment of blind hatred, mindlessly undermining its own point about dictators by accidentally mimicking dictatorial rhetoric about evil Other in the world.
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No, he's perfect. As the final wording of the deal made clear, what's ultimately going on is a negotiated loss of national status. That is best done with a preening idiot, because making things worse is one thing idiots are guaranteed to do well.
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Looks like it. And any deal struck is likely to include 'full alignment' too, given the fact there's no other way around the border problem in Ireland. 'Full alignment' seems to effectively mean full membership of the single market and the customs union, without, of course, any real say on decisions relating to them. Such is the tangled wreckage created by the fantasies of Brexit.
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Usual magical thinking from DD. What's the difference between a regulation and its outcome? Surely if a regulation states that chicken cannot be chlorine washed, then the outcome is that chickens are not chlorine washed. You poor Jihadists, wrapping up your hopes and dreams in this government and incompetent and ludicrous Brexit cheerleaders.
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I see the Jihadists are piping up in a collective howl of stupidity.
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Yes, but he looks the spitting image of George Cohen now.
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Terrorist Attacks - WARNING: CONTAINS DISTRESSING IMAGES
Verbal replied to sadoldgit's topic in The Lounge
Here you go, Shahid al-Scumbagi, a nice little film from the fifties when all of London was purest white. It'll make you feel better. https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-sunshine-in-soho-1956-online?utm_source=twitterbfi&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=bof-event-post&utm_content=151117sunshineinsoho -
Another day, another Corbynista Jew-hater crawls out of the woodwork. Nasreen Khan, a possible candidate for Bradford council, avails herself of the following opinion: "It's such a shame that the history teachers in our school never taught us this but they are the first to start brainwashing us and our children into thinking the bad guy was Hitler. What have the Jews done good in this world?" And another: "The Jews have reaped the rewards of playing victims. Enough is enough!"
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Terrorist Attacks - WARNING: CONTAINS DISTRESSING IMAGES
Verbal replied to sadoldgit's topic in The Lounge
How the EDL racist scum and far right are exactly like Islamist jihadists: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/english-defence-league-hizb-ut-tahrir-the-rage-far-right-terrorism-islamist-racism-a8042011.html -
Barnier is doing his best to chivy along a May/Davis coalition of indolence and incompetence by pointing them towards the only option open to them: Norway. As this is both the most sensible (it's achievable in something like the time) and most stupid (paying into the EU with no influence) option, it'll have the added benefit of tearing the Tories to shreds while fulfilling the 'mandate'. Happy days!
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It isn't the first result when I google him - mainstream papers appear at the top. I suggest you delete your cookies and lay low.
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Aside from the fact that sexual assault and harassment is condemned by people regardless of party, why the actual fu ck are you cruising on a site like that? To quote its aims: "It was the Labour Government that introduced explicit sex education for 5 year olds. Acceptances of homosexuality material also aim at primary school children. Are these grooming tactics brought into the curriculum by the Labour party."
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I give up. Which comedy character from the Fast Show is this?
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So I wonder what losing three ministers looks like? I forgot to include one of the resignees. That department is in absolute chaos, as you'd expect from a secretary of state who, in the words of his own ideological supporters, is 'as thick as mince'. Still, tick tock.
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I see that David Davis has lost yet another senior member of his 'team'. Baroness Anelay (if that's not misspelt), the DExEU minister of state in the House of Lords has just resigned. That means Davis has lost two ministers, his permanent secretary and a special advisor - all in the space of a few months. Things seem to be very going well. Very well indeed.
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Indeed. And on that point, it seems the Times takes its inspiration from the Saintsweb remoaner wing. Here's David Aaronovitch in today's print edition: "A report from the Henry Jackson Society was released this week looking , among other things, at why converts to Islam were more likely to be radicalised, and I found myself thinking of Boris Johnson and Michael Gove. The first was unsure which way he'd jump till 2016 and the other didn't want a referendum at all. And now they're black-turbanned Brexiteers...They...are the true enemy within." Which makes our lot the Sally Jones of Brexit Jihadism.
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You're right. Those reading lessons aren't cheap.
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It doesn't need to. Member states make up the EU. They all own a share of various assets, and these are usually clearly stated. With the EIB, for example, the UK is a 12% stakeholder. Why don't you - and Lord Pony - actually read the document?
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The plot thins. What on earth does all this mean? What 'figure' are you talking about? What is it that 'they'd love us to sign off on'? What 'grants'? What 'period'? How did we 'purchase' assets, and what might they be? And what the bejesus does 'the house come into the pot' actually mean in ordinary language?
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Indeed. This really interesting thread from the inside of the 27's talks among themselves shows they're sensitive to that. And it's not because they take seriously a 'no deal' jihadist grabbing power from May and threatening to shoot the British economy in the head as a 'bargaining tool'. It's because they worry that, as useless as May, Davis, et al, are, the thought of going all the way back to square one this late in the game is just too tiresome. https://twitter.com/alexebarker/status/921426504482828288 It took all of 90 seconds for the 27 to come to the conclusion that the British had not made enough progress on the divorce settlement: nothing whatsoever of worth on the Irish question, a little but inadequate progress on citizens' rights, and nowhere near enough progress on the financial settlement. Just to take the financial settlement, this is how bad the May regime is. Four months ago, the EU produced a position paper proposing a methodology for calculating the settlement figure. Here it is in full, for the enthusiasts: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/essential-principles-financial_settlement_en_0.pdf What has been the May regime's response? Nada. Absolutely nothing - in four months. It's not as if the civil service is bad at producing responses - that's its bread and butter. It's that there is no political direction to get this done - no agreement in Cabinet for a 'position' to take and defend. But as bad as that is, it's still better than the utterly unhinged approach proposed by the leading jihadists. Patrick Minford is routinely trolleyed out to support their idea that we should all be prepared to default to WTO-only rules. It's so appealing to simpletons that it's been trotted out often enough by the jihadists on here. How many countries actually do this in the real world? One: Mauritania. A place with a tiny, broken economy...and quite a few jihadists. Perfect! Exactly.
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Depressingly, it's entirely possible that some of May's cabinet - the jihadist leadership in particular - suffer from the paranoid delusions evident in this post. All the EU has demonstrated is a united, singular sense of purpose. It's the May regime that's shown itself incapable of agreeing with itself for a fraction of a minute. That's the true imbalance here. Brexit jihadists are also, it seems, quite literally acting like toddlers. They have undone the cognitive learning process that takes place at around the age of two when we all understand the idea of object permanence. Jihadists somehow think that by adopting a imagined stance of 'no deal' that the EU side will believe them. They don't. And not only do they not believe it; neither May nor Davis, nor anyone for that matter, has even once actually raised the threat of no deal with EU negotiators. The reality is that the 'no deal' rhetoric is fodder for Brexit jihadists here. It has no basis in negotiating reality, and it isn't going to happen. This doesn't weaken 'our' negotiating position. What really weakens it is the utter inaction, incompetence and internal squabbling in the May cabinet and wider Tory party that renders the UK's negotiating position utterly incomprehensible to anyone.
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Ah, I see! That's a killer argument! How did I not see that? Just so I can quote it back to fellow remoaners, who've all clearly failed to grasp this, could you provide a link to someone with some influence on all this actually saying "we will accept any deal"? Or is that a teensy weeny bit of a straw man? Also, you still haven't said how you're going to keep this incredible secret from the EU negotiators, that the 'no deal' blather is a bluff. I mean, really, have the the EU not been running rings around the idiots in whom you have faith to deliver all this?
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Threatening to jump off a cliff doesn't make you a clever negotiator. It makes you a suicidal lunatic. Yet how far we've travelled since the referendum. Every individual below is now one of those lunatics. "Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market." Daniel Hannan MEP "Only a madman would actually leave the Market." Owen Paterson MP, Vote Leave backer "Wouldn’t it be terrible if we were really like Norway and Switzerland? Really? They’re rich. They’re happy. They’re self-governing." Nigel Farage, Ukip leader "The Norwegian option, the EEA option, I think that it might be initally attractive for some business people." Matthew Elliot, Vote Leave chief executive "Increasingly, the Norway option looks the best for the UK." Arron Banks, Leave.EU founder So the question is: who's been fooled here? The EU negotiators, who - we're supposed to believe - have absolutely no idea that the May regime might be bluffing? Or referendum voters who were told by all the leading Brexiteers that - of course! - our full membership of the single market would stay in place after Brexit?
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Here's a handy test to see if you're a Brexit Jihadist. If you're in favour of a no-deal no-deal - that is, no deal on the divorce and no deal on an FTA - you are bang (sorry) in the middle of the herd - an economic death cultist. A loud and proud Jihadist. If you're in favour of a deal no deal - that is, an agreement on divorce but none on FTA - you're just a confused tag-along straggler - a wannabe Jihadist, if you will. If you're in favour of a deal deal - agreement on divorce and FTA - you're going to be initially disappointed, and then in all likelihood out of a job. And if you're in favour of deal deal + full membership of the single market and customs union - then you're a Remoaner in a cunning disguise. Looking at the apoplectic state of the majority of Brexiteers on here, I'd say we've got enough Jihadists for MI5 to take an interest. HTH.
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Are you slowly turning into a remoaner? You seem at least part of the way there. Now you just need to add a few things to this. Like the fact that 80% of the British economy is services, and so the most vital component of a successful service economy is wrapped up in the non-tariff barriers and frictionless movement (e.g. passporting) that is already unsurpassedly offered by the single market and the customs union. Any alternative - and I mean any known international goods and services agreement anywhere in the world - is inferior to this combination. May we sign you up to the non-Jihadist side of this debate?