JackFrost

Thought it was a fair result, she gave the best performance and I totally got the Bond Theme comparisons However I thought it was somewhat ironic when she said "that you can achieve anything by just being yourself and believing in yourself", when she's had to create a gimmick persona to achieve the success she's had.

There was also the marshal who was killed at the Canadian GP last year. Imola '94 was the biggest wake up call the sport as ever had. It was as closed to 'cursed' as a Grand Prix weekend could get -Senna's death -Ratzenberger's death -Barrichello's massive crash in practice (Sid Watkins only just saved his life) -JJ Lehto/Pedro Lamy crash on the startline where debris flew into the crowd injuring spectators. -Alboreto's wheel coming off in the pitlane injuring mechanics -Comas being let out the pitlane and driving full speed towards the scene of Senna's crash, having been told the track was clear That weekend was eerie in many ways, if it could go wrong it went wrong and if it couldn't go wrong it went wrong anyway.

and some repeatedly deliberately hijack threads and kill them stone dead, and continue to be let to. That is the problem. Joensuu is spot on.

There you have it ladies & gentlemen. The trolls/WUMs have won. That is why the forum has gone downhill and the Pompey Takeover Thread is the only reason I even come on here anymore. A statement which begs the question as to why the board is even moderated at all. The interesting characters have all gone either through frustration or inconsistent moderating, and the trolls have invaded the plus through subtlety. The mods have let it go and it's killed any interesting discussion that ever happened on here, and one or two decent posters from back in the day have even effectively lowered themselves to the trolls' level. The issue here isn't people getting offended by the trolls, it's the trolls having free-reign to hijack virtually every thread in the main board and quickly driving them into the same snooze-fests/**** waving contests. The result is the entire point of coming to post on this forum has been eroded. I post on a range of forums, some of them moderated very well and some of them not moderated at all. This is the only forum I've posted on where the forum rules state " "Please keep it on-topic and civil. Abusive behaviour is not welcomed, Infractions will be issued to those abusing this forum" and an admin member has submitted a post that practically caves in to the trolls.

The funny thing is Farage has done to UKIP in 4 years what Griffin has spent the last 15 years trying and failing to do with the BNP, ie. turning their party into the populist, alternative right-wing vote. All that broadcast does it show the type of nonces that vote for the BNP generally. With the rise of UKIP, the BNP will crash & burn in the next few years. I think in the opinion polls the BNP are currently at 0%.

Maybe this could explain Pompey's recent upturn in form

Are we sure that plane wasn't organised by a S****horpe fan?

Was it the Allegro that was more aerodynamic going backwards than it was going forwards?

Fair play More Andy Awesome than Andy Awful so far Give it time though. . .

So he joined the forum 2 years before he became chairman?

But whether those reasons have any basis in reality is a different matter. As has been said they hate us more than we hate them because they have a bitter fanbase who have to believe their own hype and their own myths because despite Portsmouth and Southampton having very similar populations we have a far bigger fanbase, and been higher up in the league system for the vast majority of the time. Let's take recent history and how we achieved success in the PL in the last few years. We spent years treading water and running the club on a shoestring, and sacrificing on-pitch quality for long-term infrastructure investment before going down the leagues. After a failed gamble to the tune of approx £7 million?? on promotion to the PL we headed for administration and played a load of hopeless kids to cut costs/slash the wage bill to do everything to pay our creditors off. Due to our infrastructure and fanbase we then inherited mega-rich investors who took us out of admin. Pompey spunked getting on £200 million of rumoured blood money on players they had no way of affording for short-term success, and were spending 60-80k a week on wages at times. Then just as they were bragging about moving into a 60,000 harbourdrome and how David Villa, Samuel Eto'o, Yaya Toure were all imminently going to sign for them the plug got all too predictably pulled. The hero owners of yesterday were public enemy number one the day after just as we attempted to explain to them that just because Man Utd had similar debts didn't mean it was ok for them to have that amount of debt, because unlike Man U they couldn't service it. Anyway they went into admin and did they play their kids to pay off their creditors? No, they spunked more money on 20-25k a week Liam Lawrence, David Norris, Dave Kitson etc. etc. and stuck two fingers up at their creditors, whilst holding fundraising football matches for cancer charities and keeping the proceeds for themselves. (See their creditor list). They then managed to go into admin again, whilst paying virtually nothing towards the CVA of the first admin. Since then they've been heralding the new dawn for Pompey as each new money launderer/loan shark/war criminal has become their new owner, and then they've each become overnight villains as soon as the totally predictable **** has hit the completely predictable fan. They don't learn their lesson, they think they have a god given right to spend totally beyond their means, they've shouted their hype from the rooftops, they celebrated their FA Cup win and still insist to this day it was afforded, they heralded all their new owners and chased them out as soon as their dirty money has ran out, and all the time us Saints fans have stood aside watching and had front row seats in the hilarity of it all too predictably coming crashing down time after time after time. Their current battle to stay in the football league is simple. You reap what you sow. I can't speak for anyone else but I don't and have never hated Pompey fans, I actually have numerous friends who do support them. And even when their best answer to the question "Aren't you worried this is completely unaffordable?" is "We beat you 4-1" I haven't hated them, I've just had my head in my hands and tried to not to laugh. I'm amused by them.

The Rwandan Genocide started. After years of ethnic tensions between Hutus and Tutsis it culminated in a 100 day period where 800,000-1.1 million men, women and children were shot, slowly hacked to death with machetes or burnt alive, based purely on their ethnicity. Extremist Radio stations broadcast that friend should kill friend and neighour should kill neighbour if they were Tutsi or refused to murder a Tutsi. What separates this from the other world atrocities is the sheer speed at which people were killed. To put the above numbers into perspective that's 1 person being killed every 9-10 seconds for 100 days and 100 nights. Here is a rather harrowing (if with a slightly cheesy American gloss) documentary detailing first-hand accounts of the barbarity of the killings, their meticulous planning, the Western World's/UN's abject failure to intervene and stories of heroism including one U.N. peacekeeper continually defying his own orders to save hundreds if not over a thousand lives. It's a bit more of a general overview than the Hotel Rwanda film and is a deep look into just how evil the human mind can be. Very graphic images throughout

Levi Bellfield convicted of 3 murders and 1 attempted murder. His victims were 13, 19 and 22 and the woman who survived was 18. His sole motive for at least one of these attacks was because the victim rejected his advances and this is likely to be the same for the other cases. Has also stood trial for the abduction and false imprisonment of a 17 year old female and the attempted murder of a 34 year old female. Also thought to have raped at least 2 women (1 of them twice) and seriously assaulted another 2 women. Is thought to have attempted to entice an 11 year old into his car the day before Milly Dowler disappeared and whilst under police surveillence was repeatedly seen talking to young girls at bus-stops. Also has convictions for assaulting a police officer and burglary. Possibly murdered a 14 year old girl in 1980 when he was 12 years old. Considered psychopathic, sociopathic, and an egomaniac. By law he's still entitled to the same legal rights as other Category A prisoners, and he's the type of person who'll look for any and every opportunity if those rights aren't met. Emotional hatred of people like him has no place in law, like it or not.

And who decides whether someone has earned one?

Being a c**t doesn't stop you having human rights

UKIP just support anything that is popular regardless of whether it'll work, and Nigel "Everything is the EU's fault" Farage has been the best at getting into the 'alternative to the big 3 parties' spot. They may win a few MPs in the next few elections but their actually reminding me of the Lib Dems, saying anything they want because they know they'll never get into power. As soon as Farage goes they'll slide. As for Nick Clegg I'm struggling to remember when he had any credibility. The comments above about him sounding like Miliband don't surprise me in the slightest.

Are you Fred Dineage?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26749297

Fixed (I do miss the edit function)

I'm a Tory at heart but I'll willingly criticise or praise any idea that any party comes up with regardless of whether it's a good or bad idea, but what's been coming from the Commons recently has made me more anti-Labour than pro-Conservative. The other day Peter Hain actually had the temerity to claim that the deficit was purely down to the banking crisis and had nothing to do with Labour's spending or borrowing, even though Labour spent years raising public expenditure way beyond the country's overall economic growth and they were being warned by the OECD about the deficit long before the banking crisis kicked in (with Gordon Brown being among the biggest advocates of deregulating the banks, along with numerous Tories). The funniest bit was when Hain said "I know they can't handle the truth" just as politicians from all around the house were laughing at him. The Tories are far from perfect and I've been critical of some of their more stupid policies and ideas, but at least the coalition seem to have some sort of direction (agree with it or not). From what I've seen from Milliband, Balls and just now Rachel Reeves, it's been a long time since I've seen opposition (of any party) so completely unelectable. I'd rather have the Greens in power than Labour.

I think the issue is that the players have stopped caring

That would take this thread to a whole new level of comedy, (if that's even possible)

So were the Conservatives for most of the '00s. It doesn't mean a lot. Oh yes but the majority of his answers are at last loosely related to the question, and the vast majority of his response don't contain jibes about the opposition's social class.

I thought it couldn't get worse than Miliband but Ed Balls actually achieved it today in the commons. I only caught the end but he was sneering at people accusing Labour of not actually talking about the budget itself and then spent the next 10 minutes rattling off various Eton/posh-boy stereotypes, went through the usual "tories only support the rich" anecdotes and spent no time at all talking about the budget. How anyone could want that clown in charge of the economy is beyond me. Miliband and Balls are doing more to keep the Tories in power than Cameron and Osborne are.

Based on what? He's devoid of any substance whatsoever in a party that's in directionless limbo. Blair shifted Labour to the right and the party no longer represents who it claims to represent as it's stuck in Blair's legacy. Gordon Brown was even resorting to Thatcherism at times with some of his policies when he was PM. I can just about put up with Cameron/Osborne, but the thought of Miliband/Balls in charge of the country is a car crash waiting to happen.