Dave Benson Phillips

Can you give me a breakdown of the costs for each of the 4 different methods of advertising/marketing then please Nexstar?

No, not when it comes to debating how people support SFC, the majority of people that are going to waste their time on this forum are people who are obsessed with SFC and quite happy to have SFC and Cortese pull their trousers down, bend them over and f*ck them, as long as it means we get to the Premier League. There are many others away from the core which support the team in different ways, for example I know of loads of Saints fans ( including me ) that would rather we didn't get in the Premier League - this is a view which I have expressed on here many times only to be told it's bullsh!t ( even though it's my personal view as well as others ) .

Not for you, but then again you are completely tunnel-visioned into your own view. Not everyone is as devoted to the club as you, not everyone sits on the internet for hours on day checking on all things SFC like me and you, not everyone talks about SFC all day every day like me and you, other people have other things they do in the summer and need encouragement and motivation through advertising/marketing to get their arse into gear and buy a ticket. I think that's the difference between me and you/dulldays/nickg etc... I can empathise with other supporters and put myself in their shoes... you evidently can't.

On this thread all I am simply doing is defending my views... direct your thoughts towards Dulldays and Nick G if you want examples of trolling.

I think I rest my case.

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So in your opinion, the club would have not got a single more sale if they had done any of the following... a) Send renewals out. b) Contact people on the database with purchase history from last season. c) Put them on sale earlier. d) Conducted advertising and marketing campaigns. There's just 4 examples, there are many many more ways they could have maximised sales. Are you saying that the club would have not made a single extra sale had they done any of them?

I think the point he is trying to make idiot, is what number would you consider to be a success as in the club maximising season tickets. How many do you think would have been sold if the club pro-actively sold and marketed them?

How did you find this out? Can you provide a link?

No, because I am an adult and they look disgusting.

Haven't owned a replica shirt for about 10 years thanks.

My problem was never the amount of season ticket holders we were going to get, my problem was the club deliberately forcing people out of getting one. It doesn't matter whether we have 10,000 or 20,000 season ticket holders, people have still been prevented from buying a season ticket due to the clubs disregard for their supporters charter. I estimated that numbers would be down, it seems I was wrong and infact they are going to be a bit higher... it doensn't mean Cortese should be patting himself on the back and a job well done. I am absolutely certain ( and even more so now ) that we should have sold 20k season tickets this year with the right sales and marketing. I would also suspect that the retention figures are significantly lower than what they normally are... that is the only figure which backs up what I suspect which means there is a large number of Saints fans who have been forced out. But the clubs unwillingness to promote season tickets / make them easy to buy etc does seem to have not worked to the extent that they would have liked, or I would have imagined it seems.

PM's Dulldays. PM's...

Dress it up anyway you want, I estimated a bit low based on what has been sold, it doesn't take away the fact the club could have had many more season ticket holders. Oh, and for the record, I am actually quite pleased that the numbers are so high, because it's a big two fingers up at Cortese who showed himself to not want STH's , so no dissapointment here.

Dulldays, your obsession with me is concerning. You have my contact details, why not take it up with me personally... Oh...

Was that aimed at me of Nicky? Because it's not me that's bumping up every season ticket thread, it's Nicky

And I know of many people, including myself that were shafted through the removal, and several people that have PM'd me saying they agree etc... but understandably not wanting to put their heads above the parapit on here.

I think people are more interested and coming in at me than looking at the big picture. I might have estimated that sales will be slightly less, and infact they are slightly more, but as you say, it should have been alot more than that and its hardly a dramatic rise considering the change in our fortunes.

Did we or did we not have 13.5k STH's last season after half season tickets. Is the current figure ( over 13k ) far in excess of 13.5k ? Simple yes or no will suffice.

And one which is blatand bullsh!t, considering we had 13,500 STH's after half season tickets. Do we agree on that at least? 13,500 is not far in excess of 13,500 Agreed?

Really? I don't get that quote. We had over 13,000 STH's when taking into account half season tickets last year, so I am not sure how they can say that 13,000 is far in excess of..... 13,000. Don't let a good stand-off with SRS cloud your judgement though.

Did you have to post that in two threads? And both times forget the post a couple after in response to someone where I stated I was exaggerating and then I believed the figure would be about 10k. If it makes you wet yourself then here you go. I was wrong in my estimation, I thought it would be about 10k and it seems when all is sold and done that it will be 14k, slightly more than the total last season including half season tickets. I still don't see this as a success though and regardless of the amount of season ticket holders, it doesn't escape the fact the club has shafted a percentage of its support one way or another.

Selective post there, look at the posts above, I clearly stated that was exaggerated. I estimated 10k and the STH's are 13k Hardly a million miles out, but don't let that stop you...

No more than 3. ( Bournemouth and last 2 of the season )

13,000 season ticket holders is not a million miles off what I predicted Nicky, and in my opinion does not equate to a success... as I have said all along, the club should have sold 20k season tickets. Boring, obsessed, yawn.