Dave Benson Phillips

Did I? Can you provide a link to this... all it takes is a little search on my post history. Go on Dulldays... make me look silly and prove me wrong.

Exactly, for people like you that live thousands of miles away and won't ever be affected by the charges, taxes and rip-offs, I can see why you will have that view. For you, you just want to see Saints as far up the league as possible, and if they have to do it by charging your fellow Saints fans ( not including you of course ) , then so be it. As for his handling of behind the scenes improvements... when you say well handled, you mean that through his arrogance and non-professionalism causing the training ground development to be delayed I assume? Yes, I see your point.

It's easy to have that view when you don't go to games and none of the taxes/fees/removal of benefits etc affects you because you don't go to games, isn't it? And I would say that it's you that is obsessive... commenting on threads about removal of benefits which don't affect you as an armchair/internet supporter at all.

SFC PLC SFC Ltd I will discuss this further when you go away and do some research into the differences about how the club can and are run. Wilde nearly destroyed us. Lowe was indeed a t0sser at times and I hated him. FFS it was ME that started the " Stand up if you want Lowe out " at the Ipswich game a few years ago when the whole stadium rose... a Lowe Luvvie I am definately not.

What money has Liebherr INVESTED apart from the discounted purchase price of the club? ( Spending profits doesn't count )

Exactly, thats our retarded support for you though. I would say the issue of not being able to get your season ticket that you have had for years as a direct result of of the delibrate late removal of an installment plan is about as big an issue is there could possibly be, I would say having your car parking ( which you rely on ) prices almost double is a pretty big issue to those that it effect. Etc etc... But yet people come on here with the "I'm alright Jack" attitude, not only saying tough luck, but thinking they are qualified financial advisors, even some people saying if people need installment plans then they don't deserve a season ticket, and snobs like Weston Saint rubbishing peoples opinion, using reasons like not being able to afford £350 at 30 days notice as a reason for dis-crediting other peoples views. You really couldn't make some of this sh!t up, but unfortunately that is what happens when you get the chance to express your views anonymously.

I don't think there is any helping poor old Saint Richmond.

I think your post is a joke. Maybe you want to go and have a look at the difference of a PLC and Ltd Company. Cortese is not spending HIS money, he is spending Liebherrs. Oh, and where, apart from the purchase of the club, has Liebherr invested millions? Spending profits does not constitute investing. Lowe and Cortese have invested exactly the same amount into SFC as each other - NOTHING

I think that's the whole point, Cortese is a pretty nasty character. People on here don't seem to be bothered about the complete contempt for fans, staff and press/media that Cortese shows time and time again. Refusing someone maternity leave? Sums it all up. Have a look through the Echo, you'll find the SFC Crest has gone... why is that? Because Cortese has threatened them with legal action for using the club crest because it will apparantly damage the clubs chances of getting to the Premier League... yeah nice one Mr Cortese. Various others have also recieved threats of legal action for stupid little things, infact I await a letter saying I am being taken to court for posting this! Why has the training ground development been delayed? Because Cortese had a row with one contractor, expecting them to start the work without paying any money, because apparantly " his word is his honour " ... so quite understandably the contractor told him to f*ck right off, downed tools and walked away. Anyone that knows the in's and out's of Cortese's dispute with Francis Benali will also know what a complete **** Cortese is. For anyone that doesn't know, Cortese has rented Francis Benali's house... that's all I am prepared to say, but some of the things that have happened during his tenancy are beggars belief. Then we move on to the fans, where he is consistently treating fans with disrespect through lack of communication, disregard for the supporters charter and making every decision based on money and absolutely no thought or consideration for the fans. Many of you on here, infact most of you on her won't give a toss because you want to see Southampton win at any cost, so good luck you, nothing wrong with that view, everyone looks at their club in a different way and no way of supporting the club is wrong. There are many people that need to be treated with a bit of respect as a customer and not feel like they are being ripped off, or they will simply walk away... this will start happening this season, I am certain of that. Not every supporters wants Southampton to " win at any cost " .

Lets wait for the accounts to come out before saying the club has spent millions, shall we?

I could go and find the link... with anyone else I would, but there's no point because you'll only hide from the fact you got pwned yet again and ignore it. So let's just wait till the accounts come out, then I can post them up, pwn you and you can ignore it. Still waiting for the link regarding Liebherr walking if Cortese leaves.... What? You mean it was never said?? Oh

I asked for someone to provide a link to a quote from Liebherr stating he will walk away if Cortese ever steps down as Chairman. Also, Cortese has said publicly we are running as a self-sufficient business... it can't be both, can it? Don't worry, the accounts will be out in the next couple of months, I will prove my point and you wrong again and you will ignore it and fail to put your hands up, like you have done several times before, like the girl that you are.

Oh that's it... now the staff should be eternally grateful to Cortese for saving their jobs. You couldn't make this sh!t up.

Can someone PLEASE provide me a link to where Liebherr has said, or even hinted he would walk away if Cortese left? I am fully aware and understand that he might not have taken on this investment without Cortese... but at NO point has Liebherr stated he would leave if Cortese left, I really cannot see him leaving. He has his foot in the door now and has spent his money and wants the return on his investment. Even if he does sell up... it's not the end of the world... we are running as a self-sufficient business so the fact Liebherr is a billionaire is completely irrelevent.

Well he won't walk away then will he... he might sell up... so be it, we will still be in a healthy position and he will not sell up Gaydamak stylee to any fake arab that comes along... he has one of the most respected family names in the world to look after. Liebherr might well be a billionaire, but that means absolutely fook all because he and Cortese have said the club will live within it's means and be self-sufficient.

And lose £20m in the process?? Really??

Do you HONESTLY think that if Cortese leaves then Liebherr will right off the £20m or so he has invested and walk away, without even getting to where he needed to be to gain a return on his investment? Liebherr is not in it for sh!ts and giggles, he is here to make money. He won't walk away because one of his employees says he is leaving. Even if he does, he still has to sell the club one...

Out of the vocal ones on this forum? Not many.

The above though may not affect some, but there is plenty in there that directly affects alot of fans. I keep trying to say it but apparantly according to most there is only one type of fan and that is one that will pay whatever it takes, because all they think about is seeing their beloved SFC play on the lush green acre of grass. They don't care about what the chairman thinks of them or how he treats them, or even how much he charges them, they will still pay their money. Suuuuuuuure.

As for my bets, gonna have a fiver each on W******d, Rose and Monty. Got a feeling we're gonna have a British winner this year.

Because of thet John PFC W******d matey.

This is a joke, right?

Yes. Spot on. I can appreciate it that he has done many a good things for the club with the setup of the management structure etc... although with his funding I would expect that from most half-decent football chairman. His attitude towards fans, staff, ex-players and press/media is very very worrying though, and the main reason I would rather he walked away.

Why don't you run a poll... there are many people like me, there are also many people like you ( unfortunately ) and there are many people who don't look at the club in either of our eyes... understanding that different people have different ways of supporting their club is hardly speaking on behalf of them. And there being lots of people that react to advertising and marketing rather than simply wander up the ticket office is a pretty understandable thing... unless you are just disagreeing for the sake of it. There you go though... rubbishing my opinion because I state that I don't go to football purely to watch Saints win and play good football. You even call the way I support Saints pathetic... LOL - That in itself shows you to be completely stuck up your arse, just because the game is the centrepoint of a social event for me, as opposed to being 100% about the football, it doesn't make you any better supporter than me... I still go to ALOT of games, and in 48 hours time I will be setting off on a 1500 mile roundtrip drive to watch Saints in a pre-season friendly... but yes... I am a crap supporters. No doubt I will see you there though eh?

Could you possibly be more stuck up your own arse Ronald? Seriously... ? Seriously, have a read back through your post, you are basically right off what I say because I don't turn up 2 hours before kick-off and then right them off even more based on the fact I said I couldn't afford £400 upfront because of an unexpected bill. ( there is a difference between not having the money in the bank and not having the justification to spend it on football and prioritising ) And as for MarkSFC... succesfull businessman? Can you tell us some more, seeing as you know so much? Another Marc Jackson? Because he doesn't come across as the next Alan Sugar when he states on here than NO Saints fans need reminding about buying a season ticket and advertising would not help maximise sales.