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Yep. Who gives a sh*t about him anyway ? We did just fine and dandy without him. If anyone will have a beef, it might be him. However, seeing as he got the job at Toon, I doubt that will happen either.

The supreme arrogance of this post utterly defies belief.

Oh, has the Xmas market started ? Bit early, ours dont start until first of Advent.

About as acceptable as firing rockets into Israel from built-up civilian areas then parading the innocent casualties in the international media (hang on its full of Jews, how did those pictures make it out and get published ??)

"facts" ? Interesting. All I see is a lot of coincidences assembled to fit an agenda. And some serious fawning by the flock thereafter. HTH.

I dont see the relevance of who is living in ghettos or not. All I see here is the classic paranoid/disingenuous public-opinion-control-through-the media-by-scheming-money-grabbing-power-hungry-Jews accusation being made, as was favoured by the Nazis to turn public opinion against Jews in the 30s in Germany. Public-opinion-control-through-the media-by-arrogant-self-opinionated-Trotskyites/bleeding-heart-liberals is not an issue, of course. Hence the staunch defence of that moral cess-pit that is the BBC in these parts.

reckon I've given 2 examples on here at least 3 times. If you dont want to address them, your look out.

I went looking for information, and was patronised by the ex-Navy clique on here. Never mind, I am sure another Iranian gun-boat armed with pea-shooters will be along for them to surrender to soon...

Apart from the fact that Los Angeles, Akula and Yasen boats have reported speeds of 35Kts.

"Jewish controlled media". Yep, same stupid paranoid anti-Semitism that dogged Germany in the 30s Especially ridiculous considering how biased the BBC is towards the Palestinians.

Anti-Semitism - alive-and-well on Saintsweb, 2012.

So you are now telling me in an emergency and Astute can go much faster than rumour and accusation has it, is that right ? Wish you'd posted that 30-40 posts ago. You posted about teething troubles and the amount of time since the Trafalgars were built as an argument about the other points raised by the article, and I can agree with them; but your argument about the speed has been to almost justify the accusation that Astutes cannot hit their designed-for speed because it aint needed it anyway. Which is bizarre, to say the least, if it is really caused by a major design flaw. Now you are saying it is being deliberately under-rated for public consumption. Maybe if you just discussed this sensibly in the first place without the smug patronising mentality which seems to be exhibited by all ex-service types, even those who cleaned the bogs, perhaps we could have avoided another argument.

10 billion reasons why its "too scared". If the "top speed" is never to be used, why is it "classified" and deemed important ? You are full of contradictions.

Wow, thought I was in Berlin in 1936 for a moment....

Desperate. Run along now, captain will be wanting his cucumber sandwiches for tea...

6 knots. At least, since the MoD/RN are too scared to reveal the top speed of an Astute. Seems to be pretty bloody important to them..... We can keep going as long as the mods permit it, lads. You lot doffing the cap at Queen and Country, trying to argue the sky isnt blue if it is in the interests of Her Maj, and me wanting to get to the bottom of this despite a barrage of sneering about how you are much all better men because you let pimple-faced tw*ts from universities tell you to jump and how high for x number of years...

Do you really need such a high rank to turn the loaves out of their trays ?

I didnt start this thread.

Even the manager is implying that the team cannot get carried away due to the is result, Hamilton and Toadhall. Why dont you give it a rest with the snideyness, its just as tedious. It was a great result, and a vastly improved performance. But it was QPR. Next week is literally as well as metaphorically another ball game. We could well go back to making stupid defensive errors when playing a team that actually put under pressure.

I know its tedious, but we need to not forget it was QPR - by far the worst team in the division.

Oh, sharp.

Yep, I think so too. NA appears to have convincingly made the case that if he be damned, he be damned on his own terms.

Yep, he really is damaging his legend status.

F**k me, and I get accused of looking for the negative...

Both are very valid points. Time will tell, I admit.