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The black one looks like some sort of bar chart of Covid 19 infections. Having said that, I do actually quite like those. Whatever we get I just hope the sponsor’s logo doesn’t look like somebody glue a Yorkie wrapper to the from with Pritt-stick.

Depends if they finish the season. If we don’t I can see it being a quiet summer for everyone, with mostly loans and free transfers. Let’s face it, Gao never had a pot to p*ss in at the best of times and this isn’t one of those times.

It depends on the bore of the drill bit I guess.

I’m not sure there’s all that much glory to be had on this thread.

I know I shouldn't really say things like this but I love the idea that you two are the same bloke, having some sort of psychotic episode.

This isn't about earning a living though, they will all still be paid (handsomely) whether they play or not, so why do they need to take the risk? You're correct with the second sentence but I don't think players will agree to it. It's not a risk they need to take, the rate of infection is still too high in this country right now.

Why are you pretending I didn’t know that when it’s basically the point I’m making? He and his family may not be ‘high’ risk but some reports are saying black people are up to four times more likely to die if they catch it. You’re asking players to take part in a crowded, physical environment with a very high risk of transmission. He doesn’t want to do that and put any of his family at risk and there are several other players who have expressed the same fears. What’s it all for? I can understand people needing to risk their health, going to work to put food on the table and lay the rent. We’re asking footballers to do this for a couple of hours of light entertainment.

Oh good, because I don't know where you stand. I was just browsing the Lounge and you described another posters colleague being killed cycling to work as 'horrific'. Also, it would appear I understand the virus better than the Premier League, who think disinfecting the pitches is going to make any difference at all. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52635005 It would seem that the parents of any black footballer are at risk, so how long should they not see them for? Finishing this season will probably take them into September.

And? I’d be saying the same if I was him. I assume his parents are both black and probably in their sixties, I’d be a bit more worried about them than what some strangers are watching on TV.

Were both under contract until this summer, so no doubt we’d have been paying a percentage of their wages last season.

I think in the current climate teams will be looking at cheaper options and loans, so there will still be a market for those players, it’ll just be teams who might otherwise be aiming higher.

I can’t see any reason they can’t either be loaned out or find a space in the squad. It’s not going to be pretty but having the players I mentioned off the wage bill permanently (or at least our percentage of it) and finding a cheap RB might keep us on an even financial footing.

Christ, I agree with Turkish, I’m gong to go and have a lie down. The number of idiots I’ve seen slagging off the government because Boris didn’t make one simple, all-encompassing statement which perfectly explains every scenario 67 million people might find themselves in... "Oh we’ve been told to go to work but we shouldn’t go to work, what should I do?" Have you tried asking your boss, numb nuts?

Surely the damage wont be as bad as being relegated though. I know we'd get some wage cuts to help in that scenario but this situation should still be manageable. Don't spend anything on transfers, Long, Yoshi, Austin, Cedric and Clasie off the wage bill and we should save a bit of money.

That’s the point though, it’s the same logic. You take a number of cases, see what percentage dies and that gives you a ‘death ratio’ for that particular sample. I’ve yet to see any science which proves it’s 0.5%, just a varying number of A/B = C tests. What is the source for this 0.5%, out of interest.

That’s reverse engineering and uses an entirely faulty logic. You get the death rate by dividing number of confirmed deaths by the number of known cases and you get a rough estimate. This varies wildly from country to country as we simply have no idea how many people are infected and the difference between those who died from or with the disease. It’s currently 0.5% in Germany but in the USA it’s 6%. We simply don’t know. I disagree with your other point about getting a safe, low dosage in an open space like a park. You’re likening it too some kind of dodgy nuclear reactor, where you can calculate a safe amount of time at a certain distance to receive a low dose. It’s far more random than that; more akin to a minefield. You’re obviously less at risk the less time you spend in there but you can still take two steps in and get your arse blown off.

That's a very good point whelk.

I would think/hope that those 'difficulties' simply involve not paying such massive amounts for players in the summer. I can't see anyone getting close to administration over a few missed TV payments.

As with the whole football/hairdressers/B&Q thing you've clearly missed my point completely. Or you've chosen to or your pretending to because you like being sarcastic. In any case, never mind. You have a nice day, sir.

Haven’t got any kids. If I did I’d be sending them back to school in line with this timetable as their education would be very important. I wouldn’t however be sending them to the Wacky Warehouse for a birthday party.

That article states that as few as 1,000 viral particles could be needed to transmit the disease and that they could easily be transferred in one cough, sneeze, breath or touching of the face and eyes.

The longer you spend and the closer you are, the higher the risk of infection from airborne pathogens, that much is obvious. 2 metres and 15 are fairly arbitrary though. If someone has a big sneeze in Tesco, they could be three aisle over when someone else walks through the aerosols being churned around by the air con. Likewise if someone with the virus used my trolley half an hour ago, he could be 10 miles up the road and still pass it on to me. Guidance is about trying to mitigate the risks, it won’t stop them. You can pick it up walking past someone in the opposite direction outside, if you both happen to breath at the wrong time.

I just rewatched that clip as I wasn’t sure what it was actually trying to convey and as far as I can tell, those stats are actually complete b*llocks. That 66% isn’t people who are staying at home and self isolating, it’s people who actually live in their home. I.e. people not in prison, nursing homes or homeless. All those numbers actually show, if they are accurate, is that 66% of hospital admissions come from about 98% of the population. The most alarming number there is the 18% coming from nursing homes, which according to google only make up 0.4% of the US population. The safest places is the one where you will come into the least contact with the fewest number of people, which for most people is at home. This video is just pro-republican propaganda trying to convince people that this isn’t the case and we might as well carry on business as usual, using twisted and irrelevant stats. This is very interesting and contradicts every scientist and government adviser I’ve so far heard on the matter. What is the source of your information?

You believe after the last four months of all this, some players are unaware that the virus is contagious and can be deadly? However you do trust them to have a sudden epiphany and comply with a total isolation policy, if we let them play football again. I disagree.

Does this virus not kill people, or does social contact not spread it around? I’m sorry, I genuinely don’t understand where I’m going wrong.