Lighthouse

Aaaarghh.... rusty.

If you can call one season a decade ago ‘a recent rivalry’...

Repeatedly describing the 9-0 by making awkward clunky references to the date, still counts as mentioning it.

Perfect, nice one Ralph. Karaka reckons Djenepo looked sharp first half, no idea what he was watching.

Yep. Walcott and Djenny off.

The least deserved equaliser in football history. 😆

We’ve been on the pre-match temazepam again.

Was that the last minute Beattie winner at West Ham?

What the f**k was JWP thinking?!

The frig was that from Djenepo?

Brighton look like they’re wearing the PE kit of some posh CofE school.

COYS!!

Best bench we've had since Koeman left.

If Lingard had been putting in such consistently mediocre performances for a club which wasn’t Man Utd, would you want to sign him?

Would you be saying this if he’d been putting regular, similar performances for Newcastle or Palace?

So you’ve ruled out a pre-match tsunami which moves the shattered remains of the Amex halfway to Gatwick. How very presumptuous.

It has already been highlighted though, decades ago. Nobody needs telling that racism exists to an extent, this isn’t new information. Being exposed to new information is obviously good but that’s not happening with the kneeling. I agree with Les Ferdinand, it’s become a gimmick and a distraction, which is distracting everyone from meaningful discussion. This is what’s happening now, rather than discussing any actual racial issues, we’re discussing the booing of a gesture. The whole debate has become vacuous and asinine. To have meaningful dialogue, you have to have open minded people willing to listen on both sides of the debate. That includes both the Millwall fans and people like Dion Dublin. You can’t stick your fingers in your ears and say, "there’s no problem," nor can you stick your fingers in your ears and say, "well if they don’t like it I can only assume they must be racist." I’m willing to listen but right now there is so little of any sense or value being said. All that being said and despite what many will say, I honestly believe we’re one of the most tolerant, multicultural societies in the world. I’m struggling to think of many places in the world where so many different races, cultures and nationalities live together in such relative harmony as London.

The purpose of a gesture is to raise awareness of an issue. If there was some ethnic minority in Dorset we'd never heard of, who's land and wealth was being taken away and given to white people, for example; that would be an appropriate use of a gesture. Nothing is being buried, the root causes are simply not being discussed at all. All we are doing really is shouting, "racism exists!" repeated and expecting something to change. We're like the Underpants Gnomes on South Park, for anyone who gets that reference. Take stop and search as a good example. Many people feel people of colour are unfairly targeted, which may well be true but simply shouting, "it's not fair!" Will never change anything. You have to get to the route cause; which has a lot to do with the appalling stabbing statistics in urban areas. That wont change until we can get kids in these areas to stay in schools and out of gangs, which is a lot easier said than done. Kick it Out is/was as effective as any stand alone slogan can be, without ever actually troubling the causes of the problems.

I can’t wait for the childish, petulant speech he’s going to give on Jan 20th, if he bothers to turn up at all.

I doubt anyone on here would argue against the view that a large number of Wall fans are a bit thick, so we can take that as a given. The issue here is the motivation for this anger. To me it seems obvious; they’ve seen the violence in USA and London, which BLM have been far from an innocent party in, the defacing of war memorials and Churchill statues etc. and are put out by the fact that all their players are forced to kneel for this movement. I know it was a minority who were responsible for the vandalism and violence but you try telling them that. It is much simpler however to simply write this issue off as racial hatred because that’s what people want to see. They want a bogey man to fight against, so any lazy assumption will do.

Sadly, I don’t think it has opened up much debate, simply made it more polarised. You only have to read some of the insults flying around to see that there’s very little listening going on from either side. Kick it Out has had limited impact because it’s just a slogan and I’m not sure why anyone expect shouting ‘black lives matter’ and kneeling to be any different. All it is is a gesture, nothing more. It doesn’t solve any problems, it doesn’t impart any knowledge on society. Basically what it comes down to is trying to solve crimes with sound bites. In that regard, it’s about as effective as wearing a T-shirt saying, "no more paedos," or taking the knee to ‘raise awareness’ of murder. Whenever someone mentions raising awareness of racism I think, ‘wow really, you think the issue is simply that people aren’t aware of it as a concept?’

Clearly there are a number of idiots in both groups of people. Nothing that went on in London over summer was particularly pleasant, not least because of the massive Covid spread it helped to achieve. The EDL, hooligan types, as Sheaf said, certainly were not the ‘good guys’ and are no heroes of mine. For me this is why it’s perplexing for the anti-racism movement to persist with the BLM slogan. It’s a bit like me launching a campaign for everyone to get vaccinated ASAP and going with the slogan, "Britain First". Why go for that ambiguity, why not disassociate yourself from a movement which you know to be unpopular?

What. A. F**king. Goal.

Should have taken a red for the team there, wipe him out and save the draw.