Lighthouse

Five of our last seven home meetings, which is exactly the kind of ludicrous stat Saints would be on the wrong end of.

Yep. Serves me right for being patient and supporting our manager I guess. FWIW he will get sacked before too long, just don’t go getting your hopes up up when we do.

Whatever. Losing 3-2 with the last kick of injury time, after being 2-0 is just the most bog standard, off the shelf Saints result there is.

Get the team playing more consistently like we did for periods against Newcastle, Utd, Arsenal and Ipswich, the same as any manager we appoint will have to work towards.

Are you sure it was only four pints?

90% of our players I've seen solid evidence that they aren't good enough, hence I believe there is very little chance of us staying up. People wanted Martin gone after six games, I'm prepared to give him longer.

Saying you don't need a decent manager to get promoted is one of the stupidest things I've read on here. Burley had the biggest budget in the league when he just about edged into sixth on the final day of the season. We were comfortably in third/fourth and chasing the top two throughout the second half of last season, then we won the playoffs about as convincingly as you can ask for against two pretty decent teams. They were collectively responsible for promotion last season and they're collectively responsible for our position now.

Only three managers failed to score a point at St Mary’s two years ago. Tuchel, Rodgers and Nathan Jones.

I'm surprised he's not on the bench, given that we seem to be going without CB cover at all recently, but in all honesty he's a young League 1 defender and we're in no position to be giving people a run out just for experience. Ultimately I think this is just an avatar for our absolute sh*t show of a recruitment strategy in summer. We knew our squad was nowhere near PL quality in the summer, needed major reinforcement and after seven games we've got Wood, Edwards, Lallana, Diaz, Les, Taylor and Archer all NOT starting. Ever single player we signed should have been better than what we had and gone straight into the starting XI. We already had enough Championship quality 'options', now we've got nearly thirty.

That just isn’t true, it’s something that people say all the time and then immediately forget if it doesn’t happen. We beat West Brom home and away last year, so obviously they were, “due a win,” against us in the playoffs, likewise Leeds in the final. Etc.

You realise that you do actually need a decent manager to make it work like that? If you want to email Man City and inform them that they’re wasting millions a year on Pep’s wages, because their squad and budget ‘dictate’ that they’ll win the league anyway, then be my guest.

Why would it have been an inevitable result, but it’s not an inevitable result that we’ll get our first win against them?

Except that’s not true, Tadic put in a large number of superb performances on the left and the central role was usually occupied (superbly I might add) by Steven Davis.

And yet we got enough points for promotion and we’re unbeaten against the other three playoff teams, with 6 wins and 3 draws.

Who would you prefer to have lost against?

Don’t get me wrong, this persona we’ve created on the internet of ‘Legohair’ sitting in a hipster café, drinking £45 vegan lattes and vaping, before going to the game, yelling at Archer to, "pass it back to the ‘keeper FFS!" When he has a tap in from five yards, before going home and masturbating ferociously over his possession stats and photos of Pep, whilst a bored Lucy watches Love Island, is utterly hilarious. Honestly I just can’t stop laughing. However, the fact that some people think it’s actually true and not just some internet meme is just ludicrous and I can only assume they need their house checking for radon and hallucinogenic mould.

TBF I do think it’s nice of them to be inclusive of audio-impaired fans, I can’t criticise that.

A few decades ago maybe. Modern teams can knock the ball off you on the edge of their own penalty area and have it in the back of your net in ten seconds flat. The illusion of safety in just booting it up the pitch died out long ago.

It’s quite amazing really but there are a not insignificant number of people who actually believe statements like this are true.

Why would that matter? It worked out great for us with Tella.

This thread sent me over to YouTube for a quick rewatch of that Sunderland game. Not only the best individual performance I have ever seen for Saints but one of the best in PL history. How many other players have either scored or set up seven goals in one match I wonder?

All the players I’ve mentioned have had at least a season in the PL upon which to make a judgement. I’m willing to give Martin longer for the same reason I’m willing to give Sugawara longer, in spite of his recent clangers; he’s had eight games.

KWP I would say hasn’t looked up to his best this season, although I suspect the contract issues may have some part to play in that. Beyond him I’m curious, who do you think has put in consistently better PL performances in previous seasons than they are now?

Which is a point so asinine that I didn’t think it actually worth mentioning, but for the sake of clarity; none of our players are playing at a worse level now than they have previously, with the exception of Adam Lallana who used to be better who used to be better when he was younger and his legs weren’t made of dust.

So Martin’s ineptitude is holding Lallana back now, not the fact that he’s 37 and has no legs? Which players are you talking about specifically? Bednarek, Taylor, Stephens, AA, Archer and Diaz may have PL experience but all of it has been right down the bottom getting relegated. KWP and Ramsdale are two of our better players but that’s nowhere near enough quality to keep us up.