Daft Kerplunk

Could've at least used a proper pro-level football too and not a fairground hook a duck prize.

No way Alderweireld or Van Dijk, or Mane would've joined without Koeman either. The best thing about Still is that he has grown up in a football culture that overall produces better top level coaches/managers. The English game is producing decent technicians, albeit often at the expense of flair, ingenuity and sheer will to win, but our top level coaches are not there. Will Still is fortunate to have learned to coach is places that develop top coaches.

Whatever happens, there needs to be a complete vibe shift at the club, more of the same is going to go exactly the same way. Solak seems to have begun this by bringing in Spors and getting rid of people behind the scenes, next is the player cull. Since the days of Les not having Paul Mitchell to guide or a legend of the game in Koeman to attract players, recruitment has overall been a failure. Seeing posts about how this team would be good in the championship highlights it. Our standards and expectations should be far higher. Being above Brighton and Bournemouth consistently should be a requirement from us as fans, not this weird passive and shit Martin Semmens narrative about how grateful we should be just to exist. We can and should consistently be in the top half of the Premier League given the potential of the city and area. Hopefully Dragan sees this and wants a team that can deliver it, and one that gets rid of the likes of BBD, Armstrong, Stephens, Bednarek, Smallbone etc. and perhaps because they are young, Fernandes and Dibling (if he is up for being coached and motivated) will stay for at least a season more, Ugochukwo realises he's not getting first team football at Chelsea so decides to leave and stay here, Ramsdale is up for it as the leader of a new era then we can have some optimism.

Will he still be standing as our coach come the end of next season's successful championship which sees us at the pinnacle of the table ready to get back to our rightful top tier level? Better than he ever did before.

Saints are indeed chronic

He was more referring to how lovely fans were despite the team being absolutely shit. In Italy, they'd be fearing for their existence. That was what he meant.

This fella needs to be a miracle worker, or just really great. A major clear out needed - playing staff and backroom staff because they help create the conditions where this level of crap becomes acceptable and tolerated. Far better players need to be attracted. A quality manager is essential. Failure to get promoted next season could see us be like Derby in more ways than missing their target of 11 points in a season. At least he has 6 weeks extra to prepare knowing what division we will be in next season.

The slide had definitely started before they took over but Martin Semmens said these guys had been chosen to take us to the next level. Well, who knew that next level would be shitter than shit. But at least MLG somehow thinks that after multiple failures, they somehow will come good. Absolute dog shit so far.

You just have to hope that there are people above who have actually watched a player, understand their character and mental suitability for playing football at a high level who make the final decisions. Vegard Forren was a player I remember having a conversation with someone at our technical scouting team, and that player had all the stats to show he could play in the Premier League, but clearly did not want to move from Norway at that time so didn't have the right mentality. The tech team couldn't believe it didn't work, a human centred approach may have been more helpful that just stats.

Absolutely. To develop truly good players, you need to develop a winning and high achieving culture. A focus on youth and pathways needs a sharp end that is setting a goal for excellence in the first team. That way you can attract and retain better quality, you win more and lose less, and when those players who have developed join the first team, their value will be higher so the rewards are there for the money men, but the football side is also in better health, and the fans are also on side because they see the football purpose. A football club should have two motivations; having the best possible football team over the long-term and a great fan experience that sees fans fully connected to the club, not just customers to rinse.

Let the failures own it and don't drag the kids in to this season. Mass clearout needed on the pitch, first team staff and behind the scenes on the football side. Plenty of people there still associated with the failures over the last period. Same on the board side, people like Tim Greenwell slimed his way to the top, surrounded himself with yes people and has been involved in plenty of poor decisions over the past 7 years, and very much part of the swamp that needs to be drained.

Please, no more moving forwards! Same with that sign on St. Mary's under what we can call the style over substance marketing speak era said 'We keep moving forwards.' Yes, we know, you keep moving forwards and now we have nobody left who can score goals 😂 The real question is what will we do in the future now we have seemingly stopped moving forward. There are still many remnants of failed eras at Saints to be that positive, as well as the seemingly useless owners who were going to move us forward to the next level.

No, left ages ago as he couldn't do the better job he wanted to do because of the shite people above him 😎 They're still there.

I would have thought that many of the backroom teams are the same as under Les. Far too focussed on numbers than whether someone can play football or not. A moneyball approach that so impressed people in baseball just isn’t as applicable or useful to success in football. Cricket, perhaps, but not a more complex sport like football where there are far more variables.

That is really quite damning. Les and Ross just thought they were clever and better than others when they weren’t, but this lot are on another level of crap but obviously convinced they are excellent. Worryingly, the same department will be deciding which kids get into the academy and progress through it. Horrible period.