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Argue your point with the millions of people of faith, who are clearly, ( by your definition ), irrational. To them the "liklihood of truth" is 100%, and the "evidence" is overwhelming and irrefutable.

And that response is irrelevant You are arguing that logic and "evidence" are all that matters, and that "faith" in something is trumped by such. Using the popularity of something to disprove your point is entirely valid in this instance. You cannot dismiss belief when debating about belief systems.

And your point is .... ?

Perhaps we are a quantum entanglement.

He enabled the concepts of Space and Time to be constructed by the Human psyche.

Matthew, it is quite simple. Regardless of your logical, scientific, evidence based view of reality, millions, if not billions of people have faith in something science and logic are unable to prove. Some of their positions are contradictory, some are simply slightly differing interpretations of a shared starting point. To these people the thing they believe in and have faith in is as real as the keyboard you are typing your responses on. There is absolutely nothing you can do or say that will alter this 'reality'.

What a way to spend your birthday !

1) Try to argue the point. Why does it matter that their accounts differ, the followers of each hold faith, therefore destroying your argument. 2) No.

"Demonstrable evidence".

Hallelujah !

Trump has said that the fact Russia has not taken over the whole of Ukraine is a concession on Putin's part.

So you are right and the entirity of the followings of three major religious traditions are wrong ?

Obviously the Kings were part of a gift giving tradition that predated the birth of Jesus.

I know, but you asked for the Christian basis and I gave it. Just stop perpetually trying to find new, "clever", ways to justify your pedantism.. Christians BELIEVE, nothing you post on here will alter that fact.

Sunni Muslims have faith in their interpretation of Islam, Shia muslims have faith in theirs Muslims have faith in one interpretation of Abrahamic tradition, Christians support another, Jews a third.

The 3 Kings.

I am not saying I think it is demostrable, I am saying the people who believe it accept it as such. Is the diffenece so hard for you to understand.

Many moons ago I was Technical Team Leader at a VME mainframe site, where our senior systems analyst made a slight alteration to a transaction proicessing program, which he said was so minor he didn't need to test it before making the new version "live". He altered the line that preset a variable used in a logic loop, simply changing the preset number. However, what he had done was blow the subsequent logic that exited the loop and caused the entire mainframe to go into an infinite loop. The only way to break it was to shut down the entire TP system, multiple applications, and restart it. I was, shall we say, not very happy with him.

And Jesus was our right back.

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Faith is not a single thing - my faith is different to that of the Bishop of Liverpool, the Patriarch of the Orthodox Church in Ukraine, the Chief Rabbi,or the Ayatollahs in Iran. All of us still, however, have it.

NO !!!!!!!!! Try to understand, for a large number of people the "empirical data" is Creation and the Bible. This is what they believe and accept as proven fact. Just suck it up.

We are testing how firmly he holds faith in that assertion.

Or which iteration of the Matrix.