badgerx16

The article I posted relates to the war on ISIS not Desert Storm or Iraqi Freedom. I don't disagree that technology has moved on but, as I said above, these weapons are only as 'smart' as the instructions they are given. It is, however, a fact that despite all the tech advances most munitions used in war are 'dumb', and most casualties are caused by these.

Not Southampton related but my favourite factoid about D-Day is that the American general Mark Clark was furious about the timing. He was commanding the US 5th Army in Italy and having disobeyed orders to pursue the retreating Germans he instead chased glory and liberated Rome on June 4th, but the invasion on June 6th kept his news off the front pages of all the newspaper.

No, we were selectively shown the images of when the 'smart' weapons worked as intended. Good advertising for the arms salesmen. I don't recall seeing the videos of when they hit the wrong target, which they often did. This article claims a much higher 'collateral' rate in the airstrikes against ISIS than the coalition admit to; https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/12/04/the-smart-weapons-fallacy-civilian-casualties-from-precision-air-strikes-in-iraq-and-syria/ Ultimately, such weapons should hit the targets they are assigned, which only makes them as 'smart' as the humans operating them.

So 'commemerative' and 'remembered' mean different things ?

SOG and GM on the same thread ? Could the servers take it ?

Can't the mercenaries all just fuck off to Saudi Arabia if it's only for the money ?

Already got the t-shirt.

I You do waffle; what do you think I have a 'problem' with ? I have commented many times on the actions of the IDF, but don't feel the need to keep a running count., nor maintain commentary on here. As for War Crimes; nobody gave a shit about civilian collateral damage until the late 1800s, indeed even beyond the Napoleonic wars in was accepted that if a town under siege refused a call to surrender then once it's walls were breached, everybody, man woman and child, inside was fair game. The first such 'crime', under modern sensibilities was probably the British invention of concentration camps during the Boer Wars. The concept of prosecuting such actions only really gained traction at Nuremberg, but overall, the vast majority of perpetrators never suffer legal injunction.

Yes it was aimed at you, somehow the quote of your post didn't stick. There is a difference between wanting to fight for autonomy and wanting to erase an entire country. So for you, how long does a conflict have to endure before you lose interest ?

Have you posted on the Russia thread condemning the bombing of schools and hopitals in Ukraine ? What about the similar actions of the military in Myanmar ? As for equivalence between HAMAS and the IRA, I don't remember the IRA declaring that they wanted Great Britain erased from the map, and generally, though not always with some of their more radical elements, they gave advanced warning of their bombs to limit civilian casualties.

The main AVRO production line at Ringway, now Manchester Airport, used to have a fake farm on the roof to camouflage it, and they would send people up onto the roof to move the fake cows around to enure German reconnaissance didn't spot anything fishy.

Whilst Gaza grabs all the attention, the sun has risen on the 834th day of Putin's Special Military Operation, which is estimated to have cost him over half a million casualties and reduced a large part of his army to scrap metal. In thinking about the children suffering in Gaza let us not forget the Ukrainian children living and dying under Russian missile attack, nor the thousands abducted forcibly from the occupied territories.

The UN is a talking shop that is toothless whilst the Security Council retains it's controlling position. It will do nothing about Gaza in the same way it will not respond to 'blatant attacks on innocent defenceless civilians' in Ukraine, or any of the World's other hotspots.

Scottish PL relegated Rangers.

Kafka

Disco comes to an end, now need to wait until next year for the next searies of SNW. In the meantime, long long ago, in a universe far far away, The Acolyte starts.

How on earth do these people get to such high positions ? Having been warned by the auditors there were issues with Horizon and SPMs were blaming it for their accounting problems, Alice Perkins, former chair of the PO, 'didn't make the connection'; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c88847v14e3o

Don't forget the Mayflower, which only went to Plymouth because after leaving Southampton one of the ships sprung a leak, or Henry V sailing for the campaign in France that culminated at Agincourt. As regards D-Day, never forget those that were fighting elsewhere on that day, in Italy and Burma.

I think people will look at the 2K thing and dismiss it as bs coming from a party that has itself shafted the country with an increased tax burden.

Ant

What were the viewing figures for the debate ? I was was watching the Lionesses beat France.

Given she played God in Dogma, she needs to be careful which causes she shows support for as there could be serious religious repurcussions.

Don't tell SOGgy that Oswald Moseley was a Labour MP between 1926 and 1931.

Annie