badgerx16

She did say this morning that within the organisation she was known for asking probing questions, before naming those she felt had not been honest with her.

Dave Gorman would be proud.

Counsel for the SPMs accuses Vennels of inventing some of the undocumented corridor meeting with her legal team, says her account is 'la la land', and she is 'living in a cloud of denial'.

https://www.sapiens.org/culture/palestinian-refugees-exile-displacement-jordan/

Said in the context of 'the humanitarian situation in Gaza must be dealt with in Gaza, don't try pushing people out to achieve political aims'. There are estimated to be over 2 million Palestinian refugees in Jordan. Shocking !

I find it highly unlikely that anybody suggesting a 'one state solution' sees it as anything other than being founded on Israel.

However, it is clear she knew about the issues with Horizon before she gave evidence to the Select Committee, yet told the SC there were none. She knew the prosecutions were taking place, even after the first High Court rulings that convictions were unsafe. She may not have known/understood the technical detail, but she was not ignorant of the situation, and could easily have done something to stop it. She chose to protect the brand and image of the PO over the livelihoods and families of her staff, knowing the evidence against them was flawed. Do you believe her claim that it was over 5 years into her employment as a senior manager at the PO that she found out there was an investigation and prosecution department, employing over 100 staff ?

Presumably you are assuming Israel 'from the river to the sea', in which case where are the former population of the West Bank and Gaza ? If they stay put they would surely be an 'opposition' within, if displaced an opposition without. How do you satisfy their demands for self determination and a voice, or are they not worth consideration?

Beetle

Just wondering what your opinion of the current shower is, in comparison to those you named.

What about Kemi Badenoch, Suella Braverman, Liz Truss, or Jacob Rees-Mogg ?

The provisional date for the end of the summer session in the HoC is 23rd July. The incoming Government will propose session dates for the new Parliament.

Ministers of State retain their Office.

Only 6 more weeks of this shit show Government.

Q.u.a.r.a.n.t.i.n.e

Sir Wyn Williams skewers her at the end of the day; ''For a final question, the inquiry chair Sir Wyn Williams asks Paula Vennells for clarification about the parliamentary select committee in 2015. He asks whether the briefing she had been given before the hearing advised to be "very precise, very circumspect, and very guarded" about what she said. "I would. I'm not sure I would have noticed that on the morning of the day," Vennells replies. But that was the effect that was trying to be created by those who made that document, says Sir Wyn. "It could have been, yes," Vennells says. "Why?" the inquiry chair asks'' Vennels starts crying again.

Listening to Vennels I think Elton John was wrong. 'sorry' is most certainly not the hardest word. But, as our daughter used to say when she was little, 'Sorry doesn't make it better'.

Vennels claims that for her first 5 years at the PO she had no knowledge that it carried out it's own prosecutions - Sir Wyn Williams clearly does not believe her.

One thing she isn't is poor.

Paula Vennels has arrived at the enquiry;

Spain, Ireland, and Norway recognise the existence and legitimacy of the Palestinian state. More likely to follow.

Marriage

We have done very bad things in that part of the World since the Crusades. However, this thread is not about the UK, and false equivalence does not provide justification for the actions of the IDF, Israeli Police, Netanyahu's Government, or the illegal settlers.