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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/jun/27/monarchy.davidhencke A report on the civil list from 2002. It's not just the unit cost of the royals, it's the flunkeyism and fawning feudal attitudes the monarchy induce in certain social aspirants and people who are dazzled by excessive demonstration of pillaged wealth and faux pomp.

Those wings just don't look right.

Point is GLT, I know that JB thinks he is being sarcastic, and maybe a tad "clever", ( whether you agree with him or not is up to you ). Personally, as somebody who spent 16 months unemployed at the height of Maggie T's tenure in Downing Street, I have a contrary opinion on the relative merits of 'casino capitalism' and a Labour government.

Find another catchphrase, we've heard enough of that that b0ll0x now, thanks.

I think that constitutionally the Oath of Allegiance to The Queen is symbolic of swearing allegiance to the country. The Monarch is not the controller of the armed forces, and as far as I am aware he/she rules at the request of Parliament - go back to William and Mary and the Glorious Revolution.

Let me see; that's the motor sport where overtaking is possible, they don't have mandatory refuelling stops, and they don't decide the outcome of the race in the stewards' room two weeks after the finish

Which ones are they then, St L ?

Is that also the reason why Maggie won 3 ? Or were those electors smart ? Mind you, they also elected John Major, so maybe not.

Given the apparent right-wing bias on this thread, how on earth have Labour won the last three elections ? In particular, both the Southampton Test and Itchen constituency MPs are members of the democratically elected majority party. ( But that will now open a whole new can of worms; how can any electoral system be declared 'democratic' if less than 40% of the electorate can give a Government majority of over 100 seats ? )

Two words - Black Wednesday. Yep, your money is safe with the Tories.

"Royalty pollutes people's minds. Honest men start bowing and bobbing just because someone's grandad was a bigger murdering bastard than theirs was." :cool:

Also, following on from something Max Moseley said: can somebody explain how if the FIA technical experts declare something as 'legal', the race stewards can subsequently decide it isn't ?:smt017

Does that mean that Charlie has now changed his mind ? He was quoted last week, and again at Melbourne, as saying these diffusers were legal; "They used a loophole (in the regulations) that was always there," "Additionally, we can understand that other teams have a different view,"

Sorry Jilly, but that's rubbish. Does the French tourist economy suffer from not having a royal family ? Do the US, or Italy, or Switzerland ? Tourists come to see the sites, not the fossils.

There isn't any, they are all as bad as each other; self-serving, manipulative, and only really interested in the 'common man' when there's a vote that needs grabbing or a sound-bite to record. Not a 'vocational' or altruistic MP amongst them. Remember, "all power corrupts", etc.

Of course, the 'milk-snatcher' didn't destroy the coal industry, the steel works, shipbuilding, etc, did she ? ( Edit : cue the rabid right-wing response of 'of course not - the unions did ! )

It's easy for an opposition with no personal experience of Government office to make all the right noises in order to impress via the generally right-wing biased mass media.

An article about Government borrowing policy : http://www.economicshelp.org/2008/11/government-borrowing-in-recessions.html Of course, the recession is all Gordy's fault;- He alone managed the American sub-prime mortgage market and instructed lenders to generously grant inflated loans to people who would never have a chance of repaying them; he created the arcane and inpenetrable web that the derivatives and futures markets turned into; he personally generated the valueless 'toxic assets' on which the inflated company valuations, and hence share prices, were based; he signed the cheques for the city whizzkids who gambled with astronomical amounts of nebulous money to inflate their bonuses; Yes, Gordon Brown is the root cause of everything. Once the current international banking crisis became apparent, he could, of course, have allowed Northern Rock, RBS, Bradford & Bingley, HBoS et al, to fail, and not ploughed money in to stabilise them and get them through the mess that THEY had caused. Do you honestly think that would have made things better ? France, Germany, and the USofA all have Government debt at over 60% of GDP, in Japan it's around 180%. But at the next election you can all vote for Cameron, who has said he is initially committed to following THE SAME fiscal policy as the Government, and then will presumably follow the usual Tory 'slash and burn' blitzkreig, and sacrifice public services on the high altar of tax cuts for the middle and upper classes to keep the middle-Englanders cosy.

My first 'PC' was a Toshiba HX-10 with the MSX operating system, on which I enjoyed creating my own games. This was followed by a 'permanently borrowed' AMSTRAD 386 from work, which got me hooked on Premier Manager, something I have managed to ensure my sons have inherited, ( though of course it is now Football Manager that runs the risk of bing cited in any future divorce ).

Ferrari and their chums are upset because somebody else has found a glitch in the regulations that they had missed, so now they are crying to 'sir'.

As things stand, I bl00dy well hope we do.

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My mother always said it was Basset Green , despite being between Glen Eyre School and the Uni.

Why the **** drive all the way up here if you are going to act like that ?

Something kicked off during the first half, and received a typically over-the-top response from the local plod. 'Andy Northern Saints' says on the post-match thread that somebody got jumped on for abusing the ref.