Batman

The two carriers are far from white elephants

lets ne honest, IF it is a female taking over. She will be pleasing to the eye. Much like the birds on SSN it wont be a claire balding looky-likey

it was obviously meant as a joke. No doubt the next week, the shadow health secretary will be making funnies about harold shipman or something

i think that front bench is just having a laugh. seriously, how the hell are they supposed to be taken as a credible opposition outside of the great unwashed of the country?5

It is a NATO thing. bound by law or something like that I hope we keep out of it. Certainly have no where near the kit to get involved.

The cost ship building in this country is apprently huge. RN ships are to be made in the UK by law. Also, keep the jocks happy (not a peep from them regarding the expanded order of extra OPVs) Ocean was slightly different. It is mostly open space inside and has a very small ships company for a ship that size. It was essentially two different ships bolted together (or soemthing weird like that) hence the the relatively short life span A proper warship can last for decades. The americans have them for 40+ years in many cases. Ours do not last quite that long as they get 'ragged' so to speak. Do far more work per unit than their US counter part. Due to the ridiculously low number of hulls The 4 MARS tankers were built in South Korea (If i think rightly) and we ordered 4. They produced 4 ships at the same time to a very high spec at a fraction of the price (and time) that the ship yard in Glasgow would do it for. Then again, the jocks would kick right off and claim they are being punished by England or something like that if we managed to get warhips built elsewhere.

http://news.sky.com/story/1593808/reports-russian-jet-shot-in-syrian-airspace http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3332790/Monstrous-new-crisis-Russia-s-downed-jet-Putin-s-fury-stab-terror-accomplices-Moscow-analyst-warns-war-likely-Moscow-analyst.html this could all go wrong!!!

I know that 2018 was her long planned decommissioned date anyway. It was never built to last more than 20 years. it was a very 'cheap' ship compared to others.

Looks like they have arrived!!!!

Obviously, that challenge on pelle in the 2nd half needed to happen to a top 4 player and let go by the ref to draw any form of worthy attention from the media

No team has had a clutch of players like that in league 1. You need to be like Brentford, Doncaster, Rotherham or an MK Dons to get out of league 1. Not saints of 5 years ago or what ever it was

Remember when pardew was our manager, he said we were going to the premier league with or without him. Maybe the players took adkins up more so than the other way? I know that is the unspeakable here.....

losing at home again. far from the next great england manager/english manager/next fergie sheff united sit 12th as results stand...awful really

one for Alpine Looks like HMS Ocean will be decommissioned in 2018

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3331558/Turkey-shoots-fighter-jet-Syrian-border-Local-media-footage-flaming-plane-crashing-trees.html

Nostradamus was ITK

I doubt we have any idea if this is a new problem or that it has just been reported this time.

China have found islamic extremists in parts of its country just torched them all with flame throwers that is that, then

Just read something that it could be 8 T26s with 5 smaller, lighter frigates built to make up the required 13

Just had a quick read of the government SDSR booklet Highlights - UK Leads the world in projecting 'soft power' and will continue - we will continue to protect our 14 over sea territories. - As above. continue to back the Falkland islanders wish to remain 'British' - Combat the increased cyber threat - by 2030 it is predicted that the world will demand 50% more fuel and food and 30% more water will protect British interests in this area - Will keep an eye on Russia as they continue to invest heavily into their defence capabilities - Work with the people in Northern Ireland to keep them safe - Manage UK's borders more effectively - Do more to combat serious and organised crime - Have a more agile armed force to react to world crisis - React to the resurgence of state sponsored threats - Maintain the nuclear deterrent through 2050 with the successor programme - Bolster security and intelligence services - Continue to contribute to NATO's Ballistic Missile Defence Network as more nations around the world have nuclear weapons - Bolster the RN's Gibraltar squadron - Bolster the bases in Cyprus - Meet 2% of GDP for the armed forces Navy will look like this in 2025 4x SSBN 7x SSN 2x Carriers 19x FF/DD 6x Patrol Ships 12x Mine hunters 3x Survey Ships 1x Ice patrol ship 2x LPD 3x LSD 9x Fleet and support/solid tankers 4x Merlin SQDNs 2x Wildcat SQDNs 3 CDO Brigade, Royal Marines (see 3 mine sweepers, couple of RFAs and HMS Ocean missing there) - Enhancing joint forces command - Enhance special forces - Increase number of F35 to purchase Armed forces to Support humanitarian assistance and disaster response, and conduct rescue missions. • Conduct strike operations. • Conduct operations to restore peace and stability. • Conduct major combat operations if required, including under NATO Article 5 - Look to increase the number of FF/DDs from 2030 onwards not to shabby looking at it

8 is no where near enough. looks like HMS Ocean could face the chop. When, who knows

Would be utterly daft if the club sold him in January. Just can't see it happening. If that was what alpine was on about

8 of them apparently. This was after scrapping NIMRODs in service and in build. Navy wanted 2000 extra people and looks like it will 450 and more cuts to the surface fleet. ah well