Sergei Gotsmanov

Collapse is the wrong word. The British Empire never collapsed - do read your history.

That report before Copenhagen. The emails from East Anglia

I am not clever enough to read the New Scientist

Dune stop looking out of your window! I trust these experts who tell us we are going to have warm weather at winter and then when we do not tell us that it this weather and not climate.

As I understood it they were making the numbers up. There was quite a fuss made at the time. Melbourne looked cold last night.

“This winter could be unusually mild and dry, with temperatures at least 2C higher than last year’s big freeze.” The Met Office, 28 October. I love these gurus at global warming HQ.

The one on which the Sun never set.

I thought you would drink better wine than that

Well I am not sure I subscribe to this; I have said on this forum a while back that we are having increasingly cold winters (because I see it first hand). I think the met office are so blinded by global warming that they just talk about mild winters and barbecue summers. Now I am indifferent on this, I do not believe that you guys know more than the met office (is it fair to say that they must know more?). I am geen thinking and believe that population is far more important - what are we doing about this. Whta can we do about this?

Then why does the met office do it? Who else can we turn to - Russell Grant?

Then why do it?

Well these are our real issues. When you go out for a Big Mac, then spare a thought for those that think that have a beef chow mein with no beef.

Then why are they in the business of forecasting long term. Should they just not say 'well this is what will happen next week, for a longer view ask Al Gore.'

Yes but you are admitting that they have all the facts - why market a service that you are not qualified to speak on. People should start to ask what is really happening, or is it just nature?

No; they are at the forefront of climate change science because they measure it.

Why then do they stick their neck out. If I did not have clue then I would keep quiet; if I believed in global warming then I would say; expect a mild winter. I believe they are more qualified than you. If you want to be green then lets sort out population and fish stocks.

This is not a reasonably cold winter. If the met office is not qualified to predict long term then they should not express an opinion. The fact they did suggests they do.

No I am saying that the met office have access to all the data; more so than the experts on here! Why did they not forecast this weather. I would not have lambed my sheep early if I had known. I also know that our winters have been getting increasingly cold because I have to feed my sheep more and give them water. Do you know more than the met office?

Well why then did we get told that we would have a mild winter? Did they choose to ignore this?

Verbal jump off your high horse and let us know why the met office never told us to expect this cold spell. Do they not have access to the best science available? Frankly if they do not know then posters on this forum cannot really have a clue.

This is absurd. Extreme weather has been around since Noah built his ark.

I admire you but having just checked Met check; our weather is bizarrely cold. Now the met office forecasted a mild winter (again) do they not have access to this global warming science. Others have said that some have said that this cold spell was to be expected but this was not mainstream. A few years ago, we did have bizarrely warm winters now we do not. As somebody with livestock and a pubowner I have been hit hard. I am particularly bitter because I have just lost the chickens I bred in the summer to a hungry fox. Out of interest I have just found the fox asleep in my henhouse nestbox with the three remaining chickens!

I think that the ozone layer just repaired itself without intervention. Try and think out of the box. Population is the real problem. Any ideas?

Possibly a moron but it is with the same fanatical fervour we were told about the ozone layer - and that we were about to enter a new ice age thirty odd years ago. If we want to be green we should sort out population and fish stocks. Green energy is also great.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100906085152.htm Not as quick as the merchants of doom suggested. Please discredit this if you would like.