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So you are saying that it is perfectly ok to persecute people if you have suffered persecution in the past? There are plenty of Jewish people who dispute that and I have posted their comments here. This constant use of claiming that people are antisemitic if they criticise Netanyahu and his cronies for there actions and breaking international laws is wearing thin. If he is found guilty of committing genocide, which is possible, him and no doubt you, will still be crying antisemitism. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/benjamin-netanyahu-keir-starmer-gaza-war-hamas-israel-b2755925.html Same old same old. It is perfectly ok to criticise Muslims but you are not allowed to criticise Netanyahu and his other international law breaking cronies. Netanyahu, his government and the IDF are above the law and above criticism and that is ok and even funny to the forum dickheads.

More atrocities. https://news.sky.com/story/nine-of-gaza-doctors-children-killed-in-israeli-strike-13373740 Nine children dead and hypochondriac thinks it worthy of a laughing emoji. Sick fucker should be ashamed of himself.

Didn’t see that coming but a cracking goal to win the game. Sheffield United must be gutted.

And the type of weirdo who thought that Pelle was rubbish!

Bugger, missed it by two days, but beat MLG 😎

Ahead of the game!

Great news that Reform and Tory supporters are least fanciable. Gradually they will be bred out of the gene pool.

Great name for an Indie band!

Here’s a thought for those still supporting Netanyahu. Using his logic, whenever you criticise Keir Starmer and his government, you are anti-British.

No one said that though did they? We were talking about the use of decapitation. You have sunk to a hypochondriac level of conflation. Another new low.

A history lesson for those who think that decapitation is only an Islamist thing. The last official execution by guillotine in France was in September 1977. The use of the guillotine was only officially ended when France stopped the death penalty in 1981. That is 44 years ago. Some of you were alive at the time. But, hey, those pesky Muslims eh?

If I was going to be killed I’d rather it was over quickly and not drawn out in agony. Wouldn’t you? Say we were back in the Middle Ages and you had been caught fiddling with one of Henry V111’s wives. You are given a choice of being hung, drawn and quartered or beheaded. It’s a no brainer (almost literally in the latter case) surely? I’d rather not be killed at all of course, but we are speaking metaphorically 😉

Your first two paragraphs are spot on. As for Netanyahu and his usual playing of the anti-Semite card every time he is criticised, has he forgotten that Starmer and his Jewish wife celebrate the Shabbat every Friday? A few weeks ago we went up to London to visit a pop up shop that one of my daughters and her friends had put together. Along with some ceramics that she had made, she was also selling peace badges and badges of the Palestinian flag. She raised £360 for a Palestinian aid charity. Later I took my wife to see the house in Herne Hill where I had grown up many years ago. In the lounge window there was a poster saying “Free Palestine”. The bloody anti-Semites are getting everywhere!

You really are an incredibly stupid person who reads anything that he doesn’t agree with through conspiracy theorist glasses and ignores what is in front of him if it doesn’t suit his agenda. There are plenty of references to the atrocities carried out by terrorists of any persuasion if you bothered to read them. The point that it isn’t only Muslim terrorists who carry out atrocities seems to be list on you. Those who only post when atrocities are carried out by Muslims (or Asians) clearly have an agenda if they ignore similar actions carried out by non Muslims or non Asians. Farage, Tommy Robinson and people like you are perfect examples of people who pretend that Muslims and Asians are the enemy and are the root of all evil, ignoring the fact that most of them are no more of a threat to us all than any other normal peace loving people. Show me where you will read about non Asian rape gangs on here. A group of them were recently sentenced in court but you wouldn’t know about it if you just read this forum. I can show you countless posts from certain people on here about Asian rape gangs. It’s almost as if one type of rape gang is worse from another isn’t it 🤔. Have you read the news lately? A non Muslim, non Asian person drove a car into people. Read about it here? Nope. As you are clearly no where as bright as you would have us believe, I will spell it out for you one more time. It is totally abhorrent for someone to drive a car into crowds of people with intent to kill no matter what race, creed or religion the perpetrator is (for avoidance of doubt all of these examples include Muslims and Asians). It is totally abhorrent to carry out acts of terrorism against innocent people no matter what race, creed or religion the perpetrators are or the victims are (for avoidance of doubt again for your own benefit, this includes the attack by Hamas and others on 7th October). When there is, very clearly, a one sided argument or position being put, do you think it unreasonable if other put another side of the argument? If you read something that you don’t agree with, you post against it do you not? Why do you have so much of a problem when other people do the same? You, very clearly, do not have a problem with Donald Trump. You, very clearly, have a problem with Muslims. It may rattle your cage when people go into bat against Donald Trump or who try and balance the argument that most Muslims are not members of Hamas, commit terrorist atrocities or are desperate to change us all to Isamists, but, as you will find with people who are not sucked into conspiracy theories, there is prejudice and there are balanced views. I have said it many times on here, what happened on 7th October was abhorrent (you do understand what abhorrent means don’t you?). I have also said, many times, what Netanyahu and the IDF have done since has been even worse. I am genuinely sorry if you have a problem with that but I can’t understand why anyone would think that what has happened since to tens of thousands of other innocent people is, in any way, a proportional response. Rape and sexual assault is abhorrent, no matter who carries it out. If someone focusses purely on Asian gangs and ignores the fact that women and girls are more likely to be sexually assaulted by family members, why would you think it unreasonable if someone tries to balance that position? Like all conspiracy theorists, you live in a parallel universe. You believe you are brighter than others and that you alone (along with fellow conspiracy theorists) know “the truth”. You willfully misrepresent what others that you disagree with say. When I say that sexual assault is abhorrent that means exactly that. The only place it absolves any Muslims or Asians from responsibility if they commit sexual assault is in your head. If someone drives a car at other with intent to kill and maime, that, to me, is abhorrent. It is abhorrent to me no matter who carries it out. Guess what nic? These actions are not carried out by Muslim extremists and it really shouldn’t be an issue to pint that out should it? You are blinkered and you are prejudiced and the people who like your posts are no different. Taking someone’s head off is abhorrent. Removing anyone’s body parts is abhorrent. Do you honestly believe that it is worse to take someone’s head off than it is to fire missiles or bombs or shells at a hospital full on injured women and children? You do understand that, by doing the later, human beings get ripped apart or buried under tons of rubble, dying a long and painful death unless you are very lucky and are found? I have spent far too long on this. You will continue to believe your conspiracy theories. You will continue to absolve the IDF of their murderous actions against tens of thousands of women and children because (I assume) some Muslims chop people’s heads off. Both are sick. I’ve said it before, I’ve said it now. I will say it again. If you really can’t grasp my point there is really no hope for you mate.

I am equating the deaths of innocent people with the deaths of innocent people. Are we agreed that, ideally, innocent people should not be killed no matter what the means? The IDF have deliberately targeted hospitals as part of their operation in Gaza. I don’t believe that the RAF deliberately targeted hospitals but stand to be corrected.

If you are referring to the attack on 7th October re alleged beheadings, read this. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2024/04/03/40-beheaded-babies-the-itinerary-of-a-rumor-at-the-heart-of-the-information-battle-between-israel-and-hamas_6667274_8.html

For saying that it doesn’t affect the outcome if your body parts are removed by different ways? At least I don’t condone the death of innocent people just because they share the same religion as terrorists. Over 14,000 children killed and you don’t bat an eyelid. Some unfortunate people lose their heads and you think that is somehow worse? Perhaps you should take a look in the mirror when you start throwing obscenities about.

I beg to differ. I don’t think that deliberately blowing up a hospital full of injured people including women and children is any different morally. Both are equally abhorrent. In fact, at least a beheading is quick and final. Being badly injured and dying slowly, buried under tons of rubble doesn’t sound great does it?

Even if he gets us promoted some people will still slag him off. Boom boom.

But what happens in the years between these elections? If Trump had his way there wouldn’t be another election anyway. Israel has elections yes, but look who is in power. In order to stay in power he is having to bend over to even farther right factions than himself. You don’t have to go as far as a bloody revolution, although I some cases would that be a bad thing? Passive resistance can force change. When the people (including the armed forces) stop doing what the governing body tell them to do, what power do they have?

Of course, and I have done so. Do you think that the Israeli response to the attack on 7th October is proportionate? Do you think that beheading people with a blade is any different to blowing their bodies to bits with shells, bombs and missiles?

What is your issue with this? I have heard plenty of Jewish people make the same point. It acknowledges that the fact that they have faced an enormous amount of persecution over many years, but that does not give anyone the right to do the same thing to others. I stood by the statement then, I stand by it even more now. As for loosely calling people Islamophobic, there is nothing loose about it. There are some posters in here who clearly hate Muslims. Hypocondriac is one (who can forget his classic quote, “Thank God my wife isn’t Muslim”?). He also said that all Muslims were guilty by association with terrorists because they didn’t go to the police with information (as if all Muslims know what the terrorists are planning). There is also something particularly sick about people who post laughing emojis after posts about dead Palestinian women and children. I seem to remember you saying that everyone in Gaza deserves what they get because they are all associated with Hamas in some way. I would argue that tarring all Muslims with the same brush is somewhat Islamophobic. I think that most people can see a difference between murderous bastards and normal, peace loving people. It has nothing to do with race, creed or religion and everything to do with how the individuals conduct themselves towards others be they Jewish, Muslim, Christian, whatever. Do you find anything controversial in that statement? If people want to follow a God and a certain religion, that is their business. When they use that as an excuse to persecute, kill and displace people (no matter who they are) then that is something that should not be tolerated. Would you agree?

Why, why is no one capable of seeing through conspiracy theory brainwashing nic? As for being amazingly clever yourself, you started the sentence in lower case. You asked a question but didn’t end the sentence with a question mark. What on earth does, ‘All those amazingly think clever people who think they know’ even mean? OMG.

Clearly not all Israelis are “horrible”, but the settlers who are displacing Palestinians in the West Bank area and those who support Netanyahu and his cronies in his administration are deeply unpleasant people. You have to wonder about countries where people allow these atrocities to happen in their name. There are decent people in Russia, North Korea, China too (and you can add the USA to the list now), but you have to wonder about countries that allow despotic regimes to rule them. I’d have more respect for the people of these countries if they did more to change what is happening in their countries for the better.

Opposition within Israel growing against Netanyahu’s conduct. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj422k1zzd9o.amp