Whelk, you say I play the victim card when ridiculed or mocked but you also say that you don't agree with bullying yet you have been quite happy to ignore my questions but feel free to make personal remarks about me. It should be possible to have a grown up discussion without it descending into the usual pathetic trade of insults but it never happens on here. Time and again it descends to the level of the playground and it is usually the same people involved in taking it there. As I have said before, this is not the Oxford Debating Society but just a football forum where a bunch of people come together for a chat about stuff. For some people it just seems like they just have to go that bit further. Perhaps they get some perverse pleasure out of it? Who knows, but it happens to others and it happens frequently. As for reigniting this thread, thread gets reignited all of the time don't they?