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Are you suggesting we should bring him back? By the way, the thread needs a name change.

What if they refused and insisted on 4 year contracts? What if they had been like Osvaldo and we had been stuck with them? It is all conjecture.

How? AM clearly knew that his value had risen after a decent season in the Prem. From the minute the season closed they were after more money for him. None of know the full details about what went on. Until we do is there any point in trying to attach blame?

I was born and spent the first 10 years of my life in S London. I worked for most of my life in London. I now live in rural Kent and would not go back to London for any money. Not to live or work anyway. But plenty of people like it so what do I know. Other than it is overcrowded, overpriced, dirty and full of nobs.

To read some of the posts on here you would think that the Board are deliberately selling players. It happens everywhere - look at the Sterling situation at Liverpool for example. If there is a hint of bigger wages they are out of the door.

Every summer? Seriously? Re selling to competitors - I am not sure that it makes the slightest bit of difference. These teams will buy quality players whoever are selling them. I don't buy the conspiracy theory that these clubs are trying to weaken us by buying from us. As long as we do well the bigger clubs who pay bigger wages will always look to plunder our better players - as we do to other teams.

You have previous though don't you....with the Scots for example?

Is it a meaningless statement? It seems to mean something to players when they are looking to move on. We do the same ourselves and get annoyed when someone choses a club that we perceive ourselves as bigger than.

This is the problem though. We don't know what he was on before, what we were paying him, what we were prepared to pay him or what Spurs offered him. Perhaps he was on a high wage with AM and perhaps they did subsidise his wages? One thing is for sure. AM didn't want to keep him - for whatever reason.

So Spurs aren't a bigger club and don't pay higher wages?

But it isn't going to stay like this is it, so why bother? Just another dig.

I wouldn't say that Yoshi didn't put a foot wrong last season. He was at fault for at least 2 goals and does make some poor errors but then no one is perfect. He is fine as a back up player but I wouldn't want him as 1st choice CH next season.

Wasn't that what was being said when Lovren and Shaw left? Why don't you wait and see who comes in before you start soiling the sheets? Early days yet.

Squad player doesn't mean pub player though and to rubbish him before he has kicked a ball is just stupid. The club proved last year that they could keep their heads whilst all around were losing theirs and I'm sure they will do the same this year. If it all goes pear shaped then is the time to wet the bed. Not now.

Spot on. Big fish eat little fish. We have done it in the past but people have short memories. It is business sadly. You have got yourselves a decent player.

You say it everyday Alps. It is your mantra. Everyday in everyway things get worse and worse.

They didn't say that players wouldn't leave. Toby was on loan. His loan ended. His club sold him to Spurs, deal with it. You have never seen Martina lick a football but you are happy to take other people's word for the fact that he isn't EPL standard. That sums you up mate. You are a glass completely empty guy. Deal with it. Oh, where did we finish last year?

What has happened is that he wanted to go to Spurs when he heard they were in for him. What are we supposed to do about that?

Because at that point it hadn't happened Alpine. How about for once you come on here and say something positive about the people who run club? By the way, we signed a new player yesterday. What did you call him? A pub player. Nice.

Blame ding ding blame ding ding blame ding ding blame ding ding. Time to move on folks.

If Toby does sign for Spurs it will be because that is where he wants to play his football. Why fret? Life goes on.

I suppose the argument is that if we didn't sell the arms then someone else would. Not saying that this is right. We might also sell arms to someone who then sells them on to terrorists. My point that they will get their arms from somewhere and it wont stop the killing.

What is really odd about this is that a bunch of people with no idea of what has happened behind the scenes have made up what they think has happened based on their own agendas and spent 57 pages bullsh*tting away like crazy when the sun is shining and they could be outside enjoying it.

I don't believe they said that Clyne would sign a new contract. They said they were hopeful that he would. They said that the player said he wanted to sign and that we wanted him. They didn't say he would sign. The summer has just started, come back when it is over if he hasn't moved then. Is there a trend here? Yes it is called negativity towards the Board. It is also called bending the facts to suit your own agenda. And has Toby actually signed for Spurs yet???

So how have we been trodden on?