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Of course we must start winning games. But if we are going to judge managers after 10 games there would be an awful lot of people looking for work right now!

Agree, rarely used him in his strongest position. Thought he was awesome when we took Spurs apart.

Who has the money? Our owner has money, that does not mean that SFC has money. So far I would say that he has kept a Lowelike grip on his wallet!

But they are still trying to get up. It comes back to what I was saying before. There was no self belief in this club before and it is going to take time to get that back, Pardew or no Pardew. Yes the start to the season has sucked. Yes he and his players (and lets not forget they have the actual reponsibilty of winning matches) have to up their game...but 10 games in.... Facilities don't win matches. Look at Portsmouth, some of the worst anywhere but they won a cup. Remember that movie, If you built it, they will come?" We are (slowly) rebuilding. Hopefully the points will come.

It might not be, but if you start with minus 10 it is a reality.

Didn't these teams keep most of their better players? I am not saying it is a given that if you go through massive disruption you can't bounce back quickly, but what it does do it make the job that much harder. I don't think we have got over relagtion from the Premiership yet. Some clubs get their act togther some don't. We haven't yet and the old scapegoat has long gone so we can't blame him any more. We seem to have this idea that we belong in the Premiership and that by some miracle we will wake up one day and all of this will have been a bad dream. Look round you, it happened to bigger clubs than us too. Why should we be immune? It and old chestnut but the almighty (once upon a time) Leeds feel harder than we did and it has taken them a lot longer to get their act together.

Why should we be doing better? For the same reason that we "should" have gone up when we spent £7m? Tell that to the Ipswich fans.

Do you really think that we went into this season well prepared? Do you think we come into this season full of confidence? We were a club in turmoil and we are still in transition.

Really? Why can't we hold onto a lead then? Are you telling me this is a strong confident outfit firing on all cylinders?

Fine, you obvioulsy don't rate the bloke. There were people on here praying that Mark Hughes would not be our manager, he isn't doing too badly is he? Perhaps the fans are not best judges of who is a good bet and who is not? Pardew has not set the world alight but there are plenty of good reasons why not. If we are still in the same situation come Christmas you might have an argument..but in footballing terms the bloke has only been here for five minutes, give him a chance! It is not as if he has walked into a stable club is it?

Really? So all of this "newness" is supposed to gel in a few weeks is it? I don't notice any of that on here, just the same old reactionary nonsense...lose a game in the last minute against on inform team -sack the manager. SFC has had fear written all over it for a number of seasons now, it is part of the fabric of the club. It isn't going to disappear overnight because we have some new faces here.

Why? Everyone seems to think that Redknapp is the dogs danglies when it comes to management but he took us down (and he doesn't appear to be finished). You seem to have forgotton the little matter of us starting on MINUS 10 points and having a demoralised club from top to bottom.

Personally I would give him a solid 2 years no matter what happens this season as I want to see some stability at the club and I think he is a reasonable manager. I would see staying up this year as a big plus - the reason being that the "club" has no confidence and it would take anyone a long time to change that mentality.

If he can't we will not know that after 10 games.

Post of the year. So good to read something like this instead of the constant drivel from the negative brigade. We are very fortunate to have avoided Pinnacle and going out of business and as others have said, the only problem we have now is the losing mentality. I do believe we will turn the corner re results but it might come quick enough for some, who will continue to call for yet another manager when we lose a football match. Pearson was not a footballing messiah nor is Pardew a fool. Some fans need to get some perspective and balance. As we have seen with Roy Keane, spending money does not equate to success and building a club back up is no easy matter. Some are able to do it quicker than other, some not at all. If McMenemy had been our manager now he would have been out of the door the season ater relegation if not before. To judge Pardew harshly after only 10 matches and no preseason prep to talk of is pointless. We will have a better idea of what he is about by Christmas but it will probably take a lot longer to turn this club around and I hope he is allowed the time to do that.

And men don't have health issues too? I work in a police station full of women who I suspect have sex and could get pregnant, should they not be allowed to do the job either? No you are right, they should be at home ironing our shirts and hoovering the carpets.

Indeed. Still, Pearson was elevated to hero status by winning 3 games in 13 so if Pardew wins his next 2 games he should get the same plaudits shouldn't he?

I can't believe some of our fans. It is still only September and yet already Pardew's future is supposed to be in doubt. Yes it would have been nice to hit the ground running, but Pardew has been playing catch up for weeks thanks to the Pinnacle debacle. GIve the bloke some time. A question for he negative brigade. How would you like it if thousands of people looked over your shoulder and picked you apart when you were only a couple of months into a new job? Pardew, as his predessors, has a tough job. Making it tougher is not going to help SFC. If things carry on like this for any length of time I expect changes will be made. Talking about it already is just non-sense.

We have the worst fans in the league...look up the word support. And get rid of Alpine.

Given that you think that times were so bad under Burley Alpine why don't you jusrt give it a rest eh? You are just making an idiot of yourself.

So tell me Alpine, what do you expect football managers (not the most erudite of men by and large) to come out with when they have a microphone shoved under their nose the minute the final whistle goes and they have just lost the game? A bit of Shakespeare perhaps? You still seem oblivious to the fact that stat-wise he won every other game, but, hey, let's just concentrate of his after game interviews shall we?

Well apparently that is what Ferguson and Wenger do and they haven't done too badly have they? As for your calling for Pardew to be sacked, it is only a matter of time.

A team of footballers would be a start!!!

More importantly, do you???

Hmmm, whose opinion would I trust? Alpine's or Pardew's? Tricky one.