OldNick

Of course you can point to we are going to spend 90 over time. RK gave the impression in his interview and none of the media picked that it it wouldn't be here and now, but over years. Had he said over the years the headlines would have been much different and the fans would not have stomached it so easily, especially in the mood they were in. Using that RL could say he spent 10of millions in his tenure. So you can steady the ship and not spend 90m, they are steadying the ship by deluding the fans that they are doing both at the same time when they are not.

That's it, you explain, I moan lol. Yep get 90m in every season of transfer money and you become self sustaining, simples

yes we are tired of hearing why they went as well, and how the club failed to stop them. Who had the release clauses?

yep, lets hope the acadamy can get a stream of young players through who can hack it. No reflection on the past when we tired it as the lads then were under extreme pressure with the fans and club being in the doldrums of unrest and takeovers. it pushed some decent young players into the frame a bit too early. As you say if they come in and do well,we can still have that fresh English base to thrive on

None of course but I suppose it could be said that we already had the majority of our quality players for them to fit in with. We will see how it goes very soon. We face a tough test in the last friendly and then the games come thick and fast in the PL. Your faith will be tested then. it is crucial that we hit the ground running after Anfield, as there are potentially some vital games that could make a difference in the final weeks of the season

Wes the arrogance is the belief that those who are deemed patient have the monopoly on such virtues. As for some of our past problems I have been on the right side of that argument as it panned out. If Iam wrong on this then I will be a winner as our club is going to come out well. To strip the playing side and replace with loanees and players who have no experience of the rigors of the PL is really a risk. Yes a couple of the youth team may step in, but seeing a side based on an English core was quite pleasing and we were the envy of many. Now we are just the same as the rest,full of foreign players who may or may not cut it.

yes it seems arrogance also is a virtue given to you wondrous people Wes. Iam shouting into the wind, but RK has done such a good job few hear, or want to hear. We are now told that the club will look better than we were before all the sales,at present (I know we have 3weeks? before the window closes) I fail to see how. In time you patient ones will be able to point and say 'Look, those loan players will give their all to the cause and weren't you silly wanting to buy quality to replace the quality that has left' and in a seasons time 'Those loans have left and gone to higher climbs, we will be able to use the funds generated to improve and move on. Oh........'

No the dual aim has not been met IMO. We have half of it at present. We have not spent the incoming money, we have allotted it that sometime in the future money will be spent amounting to 90m an open ended promise. That is of course not taking into account any other monies coming in. You are convinced/charmed/ by the words of RK, Iam not.

we are Celtic's Liverpool. Cant we find a few players from other teams?

yep, but the way it was played out in many peoples minds and on the day that we were going to spend big to replace. Like the Chancellors Budget, you get the words but the details come out a few days later ans see what you are really getting.

What are you on about? I have never questioned KL's right of not wanting to put more in or take her money out. It is easy to pull the wool over eyes of fans like yourself who have fallen for all that has come from RK LS in the last 6 months. Please let me know what RK has said in his interviews that has come to pass? Oh yes, Morgan will not be sold. Something that was quickly hashed up as the club was in meltdown. Please do not tell me that the transfer was not pulled at the last minute and was likely to go ahead until the stuff hit the fan.

No he didnt put a timescale, he was very clever in his wording. All part of the act, a clever operator, it is impressive. I admire how some fans are so calm in accepting how this has played out, lets wait and see how calm they are if things start to go pear shaped after the first 6 or so games.

Great, but patently at this moment in time only one thing has been done. The transfer in money has not been spent as per Kruegers words.If you believe that another 60 + million is going to be spent by us in the next 3 weeks I accept that, but I dont and personally feel the wool has been pulled over your eyes and you are being done a disservice. If in March Krueger had said, ok we are going to sell 5 of the best players for 90+m but we are going to replace with 30m and some loans you would like the rest of the fanbase be up in arms and perhaps think twice about paying higher S/T prices for this season. The playoff final is billed as the most valuable domestic game in the world, to win it you get untold fortunes, we were already in that club.

yep i dont think anyone is arguing against that. If it came to pass of course

exactly, on one hand he said we needed to steady the ship because of the financial situation and then he said we would spend every penny.

Fair point but it is not the intense week on week of the PL. I am happy to have him here,although I have only seen a couple of his performances, and a cameo for England where if I recall correctly he dived far too early to let the oppo score

Please show where it is a problem to me? I have consistantly said it is KL money and she can do what she likes with it, if she wishes to withdraw some that is fine, but do not have people mislead fans by telling them all the money is going to be spent, as that is not the case from where i am sitting. At this moment very little of what Krueger has said has come to pass. He is the Pied Piper of St Marys, he blows his little whistle and the members of Saintsweb just blindly follow. Apparently he was at a do last night and told people that there was to be a signing last night (I assume Taider , loan switch) and that there are a few this week. I will be delighted we have more bodies to fill the void of quality, but IMO loanees do not make me feel as good about things and it is hardly spending the money in. I was very much in favour of prudence and can live with it, but to be prudent whilst telling everybody you are spendthrift to get them to feel good and spend on S/T new shirts etc is plain wrong

if he said the roads were paved with gold many on here would believe him. He just is a firefighter and good at PR

KL is entitled to look after her inheritance but why then let her reps mislead the fanbase? If we are trying to steady the ship 'we will spend every penny on transfers and wages' does not follow. The blind faith in what Krueger says is quite amzing

I would prefer Marshall of Cardiff as he has proven himself in the PL

Krueger does not seem to be the type to use a false name on a forum. Iam 100% sure it is not him

thaat makes me feel a lot better if we have signed more than QPR, although deadline day Harry likes to keep his media profile up by having about 10 as the window closes and the Sky cameras are chasing to get pics of him

Samaras, as he doesnt ever pass to anyone in a better position.

In theory this could be the reason, but you have to buy into the fact that KL is prepared to risk a lot of her fortune. Personally i dont think she will. I do wonder how many of the believers also state we had reached the 'glass ceiling' You know where Iam in the debate but I respect your much greater knowledge of the FFP rules than I. Financially to make the club strong enough by replacing sales with players to keep you in the top 10, and all the TV money etc that would bring, is a better financial aim than rolling the dice in some warped game/fantasy of competing with the major clubs, and at the same time risking the PL status.

probably a better source than Krueger or Reed;)