OldNick

Andy, it depends on who was responsible for it. As i put I didnt enjoy watching miners being used as a political tool. Their leaders wanted to use their membership to try and pervert/oust the elected government of the day. Iam a person who wants social justice but allowing people to gain wealth by hardwork. They then contribute by paying fair taxes (not like Sir Phillip Green , who doesnt pay tax) to help care for the weak. To me the Tories have a lot of middle to left policies eg their NHS schools spending ringfenced. They are business minded and so are better placed in formulating a plan to get us out of an economic mess. When we are righted then Im all for no tax up to 10k a year. That is a fantastic idea and feel Cameron is likely to embrace that

Lol, yep 'i do ' the biggest

Thanks Joe.

I cant recall but before Hitler came to power what was their electoral system? It may have been first past the post I really cant recall.

I will be happy for them to join with Labour. The nation will be sickened and massive damage will be done to both parties. The nation will get hurt but frankly a lot of the voters deserve what they get.

Comedy gold. Have you ever thought about scriptwriting?

What is wong with a trusted system? We are the mother of democracies I have often been told. If you support a small party then PR is a great thing I'm sure. Which system is more likely to bring a real extreme party into power? Could the BNP or an Islamic party have reins to power in some way in a new PR system. i think in Austria the Nazi's have quite a bit of power, something that couldnt happen here

Where has this Progressive thing all of a sudden come from.? Is it something that is new or been around for a long time or just a new politicians new word for 'We want power at all costs. lets make up a name for it to try and fool the electorate' I really have not heard of it until a few days ago, when Campbell and Mandelson started using the word. I didnt notice their hunger for Liberal tendancies (well Mandelson has a few I know but) until sunday

It's about time he changed his name.

Adult compromise LOl We have centuries of a system that has kept us free from dictators and left us stable. PR is just a step into the unknown. I accepted the last 3 election results, even though the incoming government had less votes than Cameron has now, and interestingly I saw this morning that had Brown got the same votes he would have had a 40 seat majority. Same size constituancies seems to be a fairer way. Of course it wont happen as Labour would lose out, and the left would whine again. The horse trading that is going on now is unpaletable IMO and will in time make people sick of it if it is every time after an election

they were bloody great years for me. Seeing Scargill and other militant trades union leaders trying to use their members to bring down governments for their own political ends was great. Seeing miners being foolishly used for this was not so paletable. After living through Red Robbo bringing down Leyland and all of British industry being paraylised by union power, it was a breath of fresh air.

This would be the norm in future as all elections would end up with this horse trading. It is the firstr time in 35 years for us to have been in this situation

SHE ??????, she it was a bloke doing the voice over

The power the Liberals have now is far more disproportionate to their support/votes received. How can this be right, and why PR is such a poor way to have an electorial system. No system is perfect but having the SNP etc saying they will support the govt for XYZ of extra money is jsut deplorable. Im sickened and whilst \i believe a Con/Lib pact would be palatable and would be prepared to accept some of their ideas I think it is time to cut them adrift and let them snuggle up to Labour and Brown who wants to hold onto power until Sept and run as PM until then

their reporter said that ML stayed away in anger as we didnt make the play-offs. I thought it was due to the volcanic ash!!

The home team changing rooms has been modernised and fully kitted out at the start of the season to a fantastic standard. The away changing rooms lol I doubt there will be a clean surface to put your photos out to display

well done Duncan, get in there.

I think we have to wait until after the cup final to see what will happen. If they get a CVA, something that the general media think they will and then they have put two fingers up to the world and won

what a load of shi##

yep if harriet Harman and Mandelson had been more in the media istead of just quotes it would have been another 50 seats to the Tories

Of course Labour have been gagging to do it everytime they have been elected. They didnt complain that even if they had a samller vote than the others they still may have got a lot more seats due to the fact they have strongholds in the urban areas andd so get a bigger amount of seats for the votes given.Hypocrites and only interested now as it suits them.. by the way Brown promised a referendum on Europe we never got it, so dont hold your breath.

Im starting to take this personally, if we are not careful Ill be putting my boots on!!! Looks like Fordy will have the pleasure of being managed by the 'Chosen One'...oh my wife has said I misheard her and she said I was the 'The Cloven one'

Gordon Brown and Mandelson won. Clegg lost big time Cameron was just above neutral due to the starting place. To win 90 seats and still not get power is a bit harsh It is amazing that Kinnock mandelson Brown all of a sudden are so keen on PR when thewy have fought it for generations.

for a feeling of justice to be done, I myself cannot see any of that coming to pass yet. Phil and others give me comfort some justice will be had, but at present it looks far from that at present.

AA will get freedom of the city. They will name a bell after him and Avram after this dodge. Seems to me the HRMC have handed this case over to the office junior